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Uhuniau · #**7601** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 6:32 PM**

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EDIT: By having the station under Carling with entrances on both sides, like Cyrville, it would also make transfers between Carling bus routes and LRT much more efficient.

Who needs efficiency when you can have a station that is placed and design to inconvenience the greatest possible number of transit users?

Reecemartin · #**7602** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 6:55 PM**

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613Steve · #**7603** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 7:08 PM**

Adding stations at Gladstone and Walkley while grade separating the Ellwood Diamond likely proves to be too complex to do on weekends and overnight

1overcosc · #**7604** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 7:12 PM**

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Why are all these shutdowns necessary? Could they not do the work on weekends and shut down service then? Or overnight?

They probably could, but it would take a lot longer and be more expensive. I do think a lot of the shutdowns they've done to date though could have easily been avoided if the city had just been more creative.

lrt's friend · #**7605** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 7:16 PM**

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Why are all these shutdowns necessary? Could they not do the work on weekends and shut down service then? Or overnight?

The corridor is too restricted, there are too many overpasses, underpasses and bridges that need to be replaced or upgraded, the tunnel and rock cut are too difficult to deal with without a lengthy shutdown. Every time we change the tracking, the signal system needs to be changed and recommissioned.

While it is true that in most cases that maintenance can be done with minimal service interruption (but even that can be problematic such as major problems with Washington's subways), in most cases, track is laid for a line and then left with the same configuration for decades. In the case of the Trillium Line, Phase 2 will represent the third major change to the tracks. The first was replacing the track with welded track, the second being the addition of extra sidings. Now the sidings will be changed significantly again. All of this affects how signalling works. If we grade separate the Ellwood diamond, the whole signal system may be upgraded. This is beyond short term maintenance and shutdowns. As I said above, everything needs to be recommissioned when we start changing the track configurations in the manner that we have been doing.

McC · #**7606** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 7:17 PM**

wrong thread y'all

swimmer_spe · #**7607** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 7:40 PM**

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What I want is an urban transit plan that actually involves bringing higher-order urban transit to the urban part of the urban area, not just deeper and deeper into low-density, low-diversity suburban areas which are not good fits for higher-order transit in the first place.

What I want is for the city centre to stop having to subsidize more suburban services and suburban sprawl when our own transit service is going to hell in a very slow and overcrowded handbasket.

I don't think those are unreasonable things to want but YMMV.

Name me one Canadian city that does that. As it sounds, what you are looking for does not exist.

McC · #**7608** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 7:50 PM**

Can you two slide this into DMs? I don't think this is going to be interesting for anyone else.

zzptichka · #**7609** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 3:45 AM**

Whyyyy?

Why use 6 words and 2 commas where 1 word would've been more than enough?

roger1818 · #**7610** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 4:28 AM**

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Whyyyy?

Why use 6 words and 2 commas where 1 word would've been more than enough?

I didn’t realize that the picture of a train means train station. I figured it was to indicate the school of engineering. Good thing they put it in words in both offial languages to make things clear.

NOWINYOW · #**7611** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 6:32 AM**

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I didn’t realize that the picture of a train means train station. I figured it was to indicate the school of engineering. Good thing they put it in words in both offial languages to make things clear.

I don't get it? Is that the sign for Ottawa U? It's so confusing. So many words. Shouldn't signs more succinct? Or is it U of O?

J.OT13 · #**7612** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 12:03 PM**

A simple uOttawa Station uOttawa would have sufficed. You think that's bad, imagine the Station Parlement/Parliament Station signs.

zzptichka · #**7613** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 12:13 PM**

Best part is that many people, even from Ottawa, don't realize that "uOttawa" means "University of Ottawa". But good thing we put it 4 times on this little sign.

Kitchissippi · #**7614** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 1:24 PM**

Do people actually use "uOttawa" in conversation in both English and French? I've always disliked making it the station name because it's just trendy internet shorthand, reads terrible phonetically, and doesn't follow real abbreviation conventions.

corynv · #**7615** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 1:27 PM**

They have it on the sign like that because there's 2 location uOttawa Station, and uOttawa itself. A bit redundant, but i'm sure it's just to keep the same template as the other stations.

McC · #**7616** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 2:24 PM**

2 trains spotted at Tunney's
https://www.reddit.com/r/ottawa/comments...as_been_through/?st=jk3yazw5&sh=e502b977

the "Dear God, they're multiplying" comment is <chef's kiss>

LeadingEdgeBoomer · #**7617** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 3:48 PM**

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Do people actually use "uOttawa" in conversation in both English and French? I've always disliked making it the station name because it's just trendy internet shorthand, reads terrible phonetically, and doesn't follow real abbreviation conventions.

uOttawa is becoming more widely used in conversation more often as time goes by. It is more likely to be used by younger people who have been used to it much of their lives, rather than older people who have not. The university sure promotes its use in signage, social media, e-mails I get from them and speaking to employees.

Older people , in particular , tend to use Ottawa U a lot. uOttawa kind of discourages that. The University of Ottawa and Ottawa University are two different places. Ottawa U is a very small liberal arts institution run by the Baptist Church in Ottawa, Kansas. No problem locally , but referring to uOttawa as Ottawa U could cause confusion in foreign lands, especially the USA.

As Dorothy said in the Wizard of Oz---
'Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.'

J.OT13 · #**7618** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 3:50 PM**

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Name me one Canadian city that does that. As it sounds, what you are looking for does not exist.

Montréal, 1966. And the current municipal party in power want to improve on that with the Pink Line. And the REM, though built mostly to serve the suburbs and provide a direct Airprot-Downtown service, does add rapid-transit service to the urban parts of the city.

We can also talk about Vancouver's Canada Line (though platforms are too short) and the Millenium Broadway extension.

Calgary is finalizing the Green Line, including a downtown tunnel. The rest of the line however, is mostly surface (boulevard median, along the highway) with glorified bus shelter type stops.

And Edmonton has the Valley Line, but it runs on the surface in the central part of the city, which could cause major issues.

I would give a definitive "YES" answer to your question when it comes to Montreal and Vancouver and a "yes" for Calgary and a "sort of" for Edmonton. Toronto and Ottawa are the only ones in the Big 6 cities not actively working on new lines trough the central part of the city, instead dumping everyone on the same subway line through downtown. The advantage Ottawa has over similarly sized Calgary and Edmonton is that we have a true, higher capacity, fully grade separated metro serving all of the lines while they their multiple lines have a mix of street-running and grade separation that can restrict capacity and reliability.

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Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

Do people actually use "uOttawa" in conversation in both English and French? I've always disliked making it the station name because it's just trendy internet shorthand, reads terrible phonetically, and doesn't follow real abbreviation conventions.

I use it in English, but not in French.

JHikka · #**7619** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 3:51 PM**

Coming from the land of duality, New Brunswick, that uOttawa sign is pretty good. 9/10.

LeadingEdgeBoomer · #**7620** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 4:12 PM**

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I don't get it? Is that the sign for Ottawa U? It's so confusing. So many words. Shouldn't signs more succinct? Or is it U of O?

The sign should be in Garnet and Grey, the uOttawa colours.

No it is not the sign is not for Ottawa U. OCtranspo does not go to Kansas where Ottawa U is situated.** The University of Ottawa is the one that is in Ontario.

** maybe Phase 798 will extend the LRT to Kansas,.