Winnipeg Construction IX - Page 374

headhorse · #**7461** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 8:10 PM**

proposal for 44 hargrave from atlrg

from atlrg.ca

esquire · #**7462** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 8:21 PM**

^ That will be a nice addition to Hargrave, and a good replacement for the dilapidated apartment building that once stood there. Just tell me that isn't surface parking right up to the sidewalk on the main floor?

drew · #**7463** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 8:32 PM**

^ haven't we had this "we need to get used to above grade parking for developments in Winnipeg" discussion before..?

If not, we should.

We need to get used to above grade parking for developments, especially of this size, in Winnipeg.

That site specifically has a literal FOREST of piles underneath it (previous building was underpinned once, and was in the process of being underpinned again when it burned down). They will basically need to strip the site to confirm prior to designing - otherwise it is going to be a re-design disaster when it comes time to actually build it.

headhorse · #**7464** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 8:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ That will be a nice addition to Hargrave, and a good replacement for the dilapidated apartment building that once stood there. Just tell me that isn't surface parking right up to the sidewalk on the main floor?

the website mentioned two commercial units with parking behind

peg · #**7465** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 8:39 PM**

I always found that old apartment building funny because of this website dedicated to telling people it was evil

http://demonhotelofhargrave.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-horror-of-demon-hotel.html

Nice to see something going in there though.

esquire · #**7466** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 8:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

the website mentioned two commercial units with parking behind

Thank you!

This is all I needed, drew... I can live with main level parking, just not right up front

esquire · #**7467** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 8:50 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by peg

I always found that old apartment building funny because of this website dedicated to telling people it was evil

http://demonhotelofhargrave.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-horror-of-demon-hotel.html

Nice to see something going in there though.

It was a handsome old block, too bad it was allowed to fall apart. But I'm glad to see something is finally filling that gap.

drew · #**7468** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 8:53 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by peg

I always found that old apartment building funny because of this website dedicated to telling people it was evil

http://demonhotelofhargrave.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-horror-of-demon-hotel.html

Nice to see something going in there though.

To those of us involved with the redevelopment of the original 44 Hargrave... yes it was evil. Nothing but trouble.

There wasn't anything particularly sinister about the building though.

peg · #**7469** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 8:58 PM**

It was handsome, too bad...

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Originally Posted by drew

To those of us involved with the redevelopment of the original 44 Hargrave... yes it was evil. Nothing but trouble.

There wasn't anything particularly sinister about the building though.

What was happening to this building when it burnt down? I remember the front of the building was gone.

drew · #**7470** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 10:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by peg

It was handsome, too bad...

What was happening to this building when it burnt down? I remember the front of the building was gone.

They were going to demolish and re-build the front quarter of the building. The structure along Hargrave was too far gone, and to difficult to repair in situ.

The city had a complete set of drawings for the original building. Based on the original architect plans, the front of the building on Hargrave originally had a fairly grand stone/masonry step and second floor balcony. Certainly nicer than what it ended up prior to the redevelopment starting.

buzzg · #**7471** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 4:02 AM**

Hopefully there's some material/colour variation. It's very.... boxy.

Urban recluse · #**7472** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 4:18 AM**

It's very ugly.

trueviking · #**7473** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 5:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

the website mentioned two commercial units with parking behind

Yeah. They are labelled retail units but they are tiny. Will likely be some kind of amenity space like a small lounge. At least it’s something.

Looks like an Osborne Village building. Nice to see something new in the area.

h0twired · #**7474** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 2:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

Yeah. They are labelled retail units but they are tiny. Will likely be some kind of amenity space like a small lounge. At least it’s something.

Looks like an Osborne Village building. Nice to see something new in the area.

The barber shop (Good Hair) is a great use of the tiny CRU on the main floor of 33 Hargrave.

trueviking · #**7475** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 2:17 PM**

^yeah, hopefully it can be something. I like the design in general.

peg · #**7476** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 2:34 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew

They were going to demolish and re-build the front quarter of the building. The structure along Hargrave was too far gone, and to difficult to repair in situ.

The city had a complete set of drawings for the original building. Based on the original architect plans, the front of the building on Hargrave originally had a fairly grand stone/masonry step and second floor balcony. Certainly nicer than what it ended up prior to the redevelopment starting.

Wow sounds nice, would be cool to see what it used to look like back when it was built.

peg · #**7477** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 2:56 PM**

I was on the Altrg.ca website and they have renders for another project, it doesn't have an address, anyone have an idea of where it might be? Maybe railside?

"Slip

2 600SF four storey mixed-use building with a maximum of 5 ground level micro commercial units totalling 2 000SF and three storeys containing 18 micro-residential rental units totalling 6 560SF. Additional programming includes ground level public washroom, exterior tenant planter box space, roof-top deck, and urban bee farm.

Design Development Stage
Client: Vishin Developments
Budget: ±$3 000 000
Winnipeg MB 2018"

https://www.atlrg.ca/

esquire · #**7478** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 2:57 PM**

^ Judging by what's in the rendering, maybe the North Pole?

wardlow · #**7479** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 3:09 PM**

The downtown zoning bylaw requires at-grade parking (greater than 10% of the lot area) needs to be hidden behind active building frontage (commercial, residential, common areas, whatever). Otherwise it's a conditional use. This is to ensure that buildings have active street edges.

So whatever at-grade parking we may or may not need to "get used to" still needs to comply with the City's policies and regulations.

esquire · #**7480** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 3:15 PM**

^ Thank goodness for that, and thanks for the insight.

Even if it is just a building lobby at least it's something that doesn't actively make the street feel abandoned.