Calgary International Airport II - Page 371

Tobuz · #**7401** Posted **Jun 21, 2018, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by YYCguys

How many FAs on those aircraft and what type of inflight service, if any, is provided?

Crew of 3 on those aircraft ... which means 2 in the cockpit plus one FA.

Minimal galley space on those planes, so I’m pretty sure service is limited to beverage and a snack item on the longer flights. (On ultra short hops, like Lethbridge, it won’t even be that.)

MalcolmTucker · #**7402** Posted **Jun 21, 2018, 7:43 PM**

Water only like the Calgary Edmonton flights methinks.

casper · #**7403** Posted **Jun 22, 2018, 6:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Water only like the Calgary Edmonton flights methinks.

I have been on Pacific Coastal a few times between Victoria and Prince George and they have always had a sweet and a salty option and a fruit juice box. Perhaps with the shorter flights water only makes sense.

rotten42 · #**7404** Posted **Jun 22, 2018, 2:16 PM**

Anybody here fly Frontier Airlines before? I'm going to be trying them for the first time next month. The flights times aren't great. I'm going to have to do a red eye flight but the price was almost $400 cheaper than my usual flight south. Just wondering what people's experience is with them.

rotten42 · #**7405** Posted **Jun 22, 2018, 7:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

They rank near the bottom in a lot of quality ratings, and their OTP seems to be terrible. Their new flight here is always late, everybody else's DEN seems to be fine so... you get what you pay for.

Kind of what I figured. I'm taking the DEN/CLT flight. The cost of flights south really went up in the last 1.5 months. I was normally flying for on average about $540 but those same flights are +$850 right now. That is the only reason why I decided to try the Frontier flight.

Mazrim · #**7406** Posted **Jun 22, 2018, 10:48 PM**

Making my first foray into international travel soon, and I'm surprised how little there is available between regular economy and premium economy. Only 2 rows on an AC 789 plane available with extra leg room, and then it's time to more than double your ticket price if you want premium economy. Yikes. Guess I'll just have to deal with my knees touching the seat in front of me for 9.5 hours.

Policy Wonk · #**7407** Posted **Jun 23, 2018, 12:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

WestJet Link loads are stupendous all day.

Majority are full, 34 out of 34. The few that aren't are 28, 32, etc.

RIP Air Georgian

It is very hard to make money doing what WestJet Link is doing whether the planes are full or not.

FormerWingTipper · #**7408** Posted **Jun 23, 2018, 11:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mazrim

Only 2 rows on an AC 789 plane available with extra leg room

Actually, it's 3 rows

FormerWingTipper · #**7409** Posted **Jun 23, 2018, 11:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

It's obviously a bit more complex than that, like the fact that my father will now fly YQL-YYC-YHZ instead of AC due to the rather unreliable nature of the Beeches.

I am not convinced the Westjet Link Saab aircraft operated by Pacific Coastal will have a material overall better OTP record than the Air Canada Express Beechcraft aircraft operated by Air Georgian. We shall see...

Tobuz · #**7410** Posted **Jun 23, 2018, 5:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

It's not that the Beeches have terrible OTP, they just straight up cancel. Forget being late.

But is that something specific to the type of aircraft? Or is it because tiny aircraft with relatively few pax - regardless of the aircraft - are the first ones to get cancelled when an airline's operations get messed up for some reason?

Johnny Aussie · #**7411** Posted **Jun 24, 2018, 11:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

It's because the Beeches are trash. Oh look, there's a cloud in the sky and every Georgian is screwed today. Typical Saturday. Typical day.

They are perpetually broken and tail swapping multiple times for a single sector trying to find a frame that is slightly less trash than the others.

Perhaps they can look at integra’s J31s. Should have a few lying around now that they’ve pulled out of YEG, YQL and YXH.

With WestJet’s latest route additions from YYC, they really seem to have gained a critical mass having almost all of Western Canada connected to YYC. Should be in a great position to fend off any of Flair’s ambitions. YYC being a larger market and better geographically located. Could be a fun game to watch.

Policy Wonk · #**7412** Posted **Jun 25, 2018, 12:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

It's obviously a bit more complex than that, like the fact that my father will now fly YQL-YYC-YHZ instead of AC due to the rather unreliable nature of the Beeches. Link is therefore putting bodies on higher yielding mainline sectors via connections.

This is the general philosophy behind any regional operation but I'm sure you're aware of this.

That is the philosophy, but the high costs still make it difficult to make money and WestJet isn't going to enjoy the pricing power that Air Canada once did in support of their regional network. I would be very surprised if any of the destinations within a reasonable driving distance of YYC survive.

Mazrim · #**7413** Posted **Jun 25, 2018, 5:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by FormerWingTipper

Actually, it's 3 rows

Oops, thanks. I stand corrected! Most of them were taken already on AC's website so I was looking at Seatguru which shows 2 (Rows 18 and 31). Still surprising to me given the large number of economy seating rows.

tuffyy · #**7414** Posted **Jun 27, 2018, 8:09 PM**

AC express (Air Georgian) is ending it’s YYC-YQF route as of November 1st.

MalcolmTucker · #**7415** Posted **Jun 27, 2018, 9:13 PM**

That 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵. A great way to get extra segments and free parking in exchange for time.

suburbia · #**7416** Posted **Jun 28, 2018, 12:05 AM**

There was a blue 747 parked on the western edge of the airport yesterday (might still be there - I do not know). I drove by too fast to see the tail properly. Anyone know what that jumbo was here for?

hollywoodcory · #**7417** Posted **Jun 28, 2018, 12:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by suburbia

There was a blue 747 parked on the western edge of the airport yesterday (might still be there - I do not know). I drove by too fast to see the tail properly. Anyone know what that jumbo was here for?

Korean Air Cargo?

Johnny Aussie · #**7418** Posted **Jun 28, 2018, 1:01 AM**

AC continues to slowly chip away at the YYC “hub”

CloudInspector · #**7419** Posted **Jun 28, 2018, 3:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by suburbia

There was a blue 747 parked on the western edge of the airport yesterday (might still be there - I do not know). I drove by too fast to see the tail properly. Anyone know what that jumbo was here for?

I was through there yesterday (windy as anything by the way!) and it was definitely a Korean Air 747.

zahav · #**7420** Posted **Jun 28, 2018, 7:31 AM**

I bet Westjet Link will take over the Red Deer route, it makes sense especially now, I agree with the other posts, I think Link will succeed in killing these local AC routes. I am also surprised how frankly they talk about how it was underperforming. Usually officials like to make things as sugar-coated and politically correct as possible like "We appreciate the community's support, but at this time the route and aircraft are not correct". In this case they flat out said it was due to demand. Same thing that BA said when they pulled LHR