Winnipeg Construction IX

[The Unknown Poster]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ What are they upset about? University Crescent is already a multifamily environment, and given that it's basically right at University and Pembina it's not like will have any appreciable impact on the little SFH enclave behind it.

That said, I do wish we had some prettier MURBs going up along Pembina. I won't say this building is the bare minimum in terms of aesthetic standards, but it's no more than a rung or two above that.

There are condos being built a block down University as well so Im not sure what the fuss is about. I understand if you're the homeowner (or two) right beside the development but otherwise, what impact does it have? You're across the street from a 16 storey building already.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

There are condos being built a block down University as well so Im not sure what the fuss is about. I understand if you're the homeowner (or two) right beside the development but otherwise, what impact does it have? You're across the street from a 16 storey building already.

Exactly. I can get the argument if someone wants to build a MURB in a sea of SFHs like Whyte Ridge or whatever, but that area north of the university already has a fair amount of density. I guess the residents can make the point that to now there haven't been any MURBs on the east side of University Cr., but that's a tough argument to make considering it's parcel of land just a stone's throw from Pembina/University/Bishop Grandin. It's easy to see why the location is well suited to multifamily.

[windypeg]

Oh brother. "I basically live beside a highway interchange but this modest rental building is going to RUIN MY NEIGHBOURHOOD!" Aren't most of the houses around there illegal student rooming houses anyway? Maybe it's just slum landlords who are worried this will cut into their market.

[BAKGUY]

Originally Posted by windypeg

Oh brother. "I basically live beside a highway interchange but this modest rental building is going to RUIN MY NEIGHBOURHOOD!" Aren't most of the houses around there illegal student rooming houses anyway? Maybe it's just slum landlords who are worried this will cut into their market.

Excellent point..

[Ando]

Originally Posted by dmacc

Granted if her platform is better overall, I will vote for her even if she were to tell me she won't look at Route 90.

I actually wanted Steeves even though I supported RT. I voted for Bowman because I felt it was more important to keep Judy Washalisalies(I know that's spelled wrong) from getting elected. Bowman got in at a great time, he just had to improve upon the previous administration.

Seriously, she's Doug Ford with a blonde wig on. Check out the resemblance.

[dmacc]

Originally Posted by Ando

Seriously, she's Doug Ford with a blonde wig on. Check out the resemblance.

Like I said, depends on the platform she presents. If she says she will focus on growing downtown through tax incentives and getting the WFPS and WPS budget under control while investing in good economic and public ROI infrastructure then I would consider her. I am not sold on anyone at the moment, including bowman. I do feel like her and Palister would work well together. Imagine the good that could be done with a city and province that are on the same page. I don't remember a time when that was the case.

[TimeFadesAway]

Originally Posted by dmacc

You're right, however, I don't think that has stopped others in the past. It works as a good tool to get additional media time. If you create a good polarizing issue then the media grabs hold of it and your name comes up more then other candidates. It's a common tool used by politicians. From her interview on CJOB it sounds like she wants to make it a bit of an issue.

This is the go-to strategy for one of her campaign advisors. I know that if his name is on someone's campaign, that I shouldn't vote for that candidate. He worked for Steeves last time around, which tells you all you need to know.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by dmacc

Like I said, depends on the platform she presents. If she says she will focus on growing downtown through tax incentives and getting the WFPS and WPS budget under control while investing in good economic and public ROI infrastructure then I would consider her. I am not sold on anyone at the moment, including bowman. I do feel like her and Palister would work well together. Imagine the good that could be done with a city and province that are on the same page. I don't remember a time when that was the case.

The 1999-2004 era with Gary Doer and Glen Murray at the helm yielded some pretty impressive results for the city. It led to some of the defining developments of this era... CMHR, MTS Centre, major steps toward rapid transit, Manitoba Hydro Place, and an increased focus on downtown development generally.

However, I don't think Pallister/Motkaluk would even come close to that. What has Pallister's government started since coming into office that would be regarded as a benefit to downtown Winnipeg?

[Authentic_City]

Originally Posted by dmacc

Like I said, depends on the platform she presents. If she says she will focus on growing downtown through tax incentives and getting the WFPS and WPS budget under control while investing in good economic and public ROI infrastructure then I would consider her. I am not sold on anyone at the moment, including bowman. I do feel like her and Palister would work well together. Imagine the good that could be done with a city and province that are on the same page. I don't remember a time when that was the case.

I don't doubt that Pallister and Jenny M. would be on the same page, but I do doubt their focus would be on downtown. Both draw their core support from suburban and/or rural constituencies. We have seen how this has worked in the past. Also, we had an NDP provincial gov't and a left leaning mayor (Murray). Not sure it resulted in greater levels of coordination or cooperation between prov. and city. Maybe.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by TimeFadesAway

This is the go-to strategy for one of her campaign advisors. I know that if his name is on someone's campaign, that I shouldn't vote for that candidate. He worked for Steeves last time around, which tells you all you need to know.

OK, well that explains things. Her campaign so far seems like a carbon copy of his. It's like she got her hands on the small-time demagogue starter kit and is going to town with it.

[lilwayne]

i been to edmonton vancouver toronto calgary

and i can say winnipeg is one of the most underrated cities in canada

and huge skyscrapers and dense city streets are so damn overrated..
ii hated vancouver downtown its congested 90 percent of raods in vancouver arent divided.. roads are narrow its dirty.. downtown toronto traffic is far worse.. it isnt even nice looking just a concrete jungle buildings left and right and dirty store fronts and streets.. edmonton is just an ugly city...

winnipeg is like an urban jungle.. most streets are nice and wide multiple lanes.. ya theres pot holes and ruts in our roads... but trust me when i say i prefer that over the narrow 2 way streets all over most these other cities.. our downtown needs a lot of work but man after visiting other cities its far simpler and has way more potential than any other downtown.. cities like vancouver and toronto are terribly overrated.. ya theres more jobs and entertaiining things to do in toronto and vancouve has the ocean ferrys and parks but trust me they arent great... vancouver us have 2 hr limit on parking meters and they charge 1 dollar for 15 minutes.. appreciate what you got here pppl

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by esquire

The 1999-2004 era with Gary Doer and Glen Murray at the helm yielded some pretty impressive results for the city. It led to some of the defining developments of this era... CMHR, MTS Centre, major steps toward rapid transit, Manitoba Hydro Place, and an increased focus on downtown development generally.

However, I don't think Pallister/Motkaluk would even come close to that. What has Pallister's government started since coming into office that would be regarded as a benefit to downtown Winnipeg?

Not to mention a lot of the "intangibles"like a big spike in cultural events, etc.

Originally Posted by esquire

OK, well that explains things. Her campaign so far seems like a carbon copy of his. It's like she got her hands on the small-time demagogue starter kit and is going to town with it.

LOL.

Originally Posted by lilwayne

i been to edmonton vancouver toronto calgary

and i can say winnipeg is one of the most underrated cities in canada

and huge skyscrapers and dense city streets are so damn overrated..
ii hated vancouver downtown its congested 90 percent of raods in vancouver arent divided.. roads are narrow its dirty.. downtown toronto traffic is far worse.. it isnt even nice looking just a concrete jungle buildings left and right and dirty store fronts and streets.. edmonton is just an ugly city...

winnipeg is like an urban jungle.. most streets are nice and wide multiple lanes.. ya theres pot holes and ruts in our roads... but trust me when i say i prefer that over the narrow 2 way streets all over most these other cities.. our downtown needs a lot of work but man after visiting other cities its far simpler and has way more potential than any other downtown.. cities like vancouver and toronto are terribly overrated.. ya theres more jobs and entertaiining things to do in toronto and vancouve has the ocean ferrys and parks but trust me they arent great... vancouver us have 2 hr limit on parking meters and they charge 1 dollar for 15 minutes.. appreciate what you got here pppl

This is very true, and people are starting to realize that. Even ignoring the Jets run, tourism is growing, we're getting a lot more travel and media attention, and general sentiment (outside wpg) seems to be vastly improving.

[Ando]

Originally Posted by dmacc

Like I said, depends on the platform she presents. If she says she will focus on growing downtown through tax incentives and getting the WFPS and WPS budget under control while investing in good economic and public ROI infrastructure then I would consider her. I am not sold on anyone at the moment, including bowman. I do feel like her and Palister would work well together. Imagine the good that could be done with a city and province that are on the same page. I don't remember a time when that was the case.

Well, we'll never know unless she comes out with a platform other than she is against opening up P&M.

[lilwayne]

i think voting for pc was worst desicion province ever made

i dont think theyll ever get another term

what a mess they created.. raising cost of living yet trying to cut wages jobs

please for love of god dont vote for them ever again

they dont even support downtown growth

with pc in power

we would never have mts center dt or the hydro bldg... and with ndp medical arts bldg would of been a nice new building not an empty derelict one

PLEASE DONT VOTE PC EVERRRRRRR PALLISTER IS WORST PREMIER EVERR

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by lilwayne

i think voting for pc was worst desicion province ever made

i dont think theyll ever get another term

what a mess they created.. raising cost of living yet trying to cut wages jobs

please for love of god dont vote for them ever again

they dont even support downtown growth

with pc in power

we would never have mts center dt or the hydro bldg... and with ndp medical arts bldg would of been a nice new building not an empty derelict one

PLEASE DONT VOTE PC EVERRRRRRR PALLISTER IS WORST PREMIER EVERR

Well, consider that the NDP funded all that stuff with tax dollars. It's not a good sign when your government is either the largest employer in the region or when it's the only driver of construction.

I'm not saying the PCs are great either but don't kid yourself: The NDP is almost always the last party you want in power if you're looking for a good economy and lots of private investment. Under Doer they actually weren't half bad this last time. Not good enough to make me consider voting for them (they just love giving my money away to every outstretched hand with a sob story) but not bad. Then he left and they went back to normal.

[windypeg]

Originally Posted by Spocket

Well, consider that the NDP funded all that stuff with tax dollars. It's not a good sign when your government is either the largest employer in the region or when it's the only driver of construction.

I'm not saying the PCs are great either but don't kid yourself: The NDP is almost always the last party you want in power if you're looking for a good economy and lots of private investment. Under Doer they actually weren't half bad this last time. Not good enough to make me consider voting for them (they just love giving my money away to every outstretched hand with a sob story) but not bad. Then he left and they went back to normal.

Smart government investment can be a catalyst that drives private investment. Companies succeed when they have efficient cities with good infrastructure to transport people and goods, good universities pumping out talent, grants for research and development to give a competitive edge, etc. Nobody benefits from austerity. Cuts to infrastructure or healthcare are just going to cost you more down the road.

Problem is, we have one party that doesn't want to invest in anything, and another party that is great at spending but only seems to do it recklessly and ineffectively. The NDP managed to throw money at everything without ever fixing anything. All our public services were still a mess after 4 terms of tossing money around. They made no real progress on poverty, indigenous issues, and other things progressives are supposed to care about. You see them now pushing the PCs for stuff like safe injection sites - they had 16 years in office they could have done that if it mattered to them. Look at the state they left CFS in. They seemed to like expanding public services, but didn't much care if those services worked or not.

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by lilwayne

i think voting for pc was worst desicion province ever made

i dont think theyll ever get another term

PLEASE DONT VOTE PC EVERRRRRRR PALLISTER IS WORST PREMIER EVERR

wow, couldn't disagree with you more. NDP had 12+ years to fix health care system and tried numerous things and failed, something is being done by PC and succeeeding. pissing people off short term, but long term it will succeed. each and every department is being looked at, coming up with innovative ideas and becoming lean.

do you like fat gov't? i dont

[dmacc]

Originally Posted by Ando

Well, we'll never know unless she comes out with a platform other than she is against opening up P&M.

She spoke on CJOB earlier this week and spoke about reducing an infrastructure deficit that included Parks, community centres, water, sewage and roads. She wants to fix issues with police, I hope she means the fact that we spend huge dollars for little result. She sounds a lot like Pallister and his value based spending. It wasn't a full platform but we're still 17ish weeks away.

[dmacc]

Originally Posted by windypeg

Smart government investment can be a catalyst that drives private investment. Companies succeed when they have efficient cities with good infrastructure to transport people and goods, good universities pumping out talent, grants for research and development to give a competitive edge, etc. Nobody benefits from austerity. Cuts to infrastructure or healthcare are just going to cost you more down the road.

Problem is, we have one party that doesn't want to invest in anything, and another party that is great at spending but only seems to do it recklessly and ineffectively. The NDP managed to throw money at everything without ever fixing anything. All our public services were still a mess after 4 terms of tossing money around. They made no real progress on poverty, indigenous issues, and other things progressives are supposed to care about. You see them now pushing the PCs for stuff like safe injection sites - they had 16 years in office they could have done that if it mattered to them. Look at the state they left CFS in. They seemed to like expanding public services, but didn't much care if those services worked or not.

And that's the real problem, the PC's come in and have to implement great austerity measures to prevent major financial issues but never loosen the reigns and then the NDP gets in and open the flood gates and spend with reckless abandon. It's a continuous cycle in this province.

[bomberjet]

We'll see about the Healthcare system. I don't like all those health living whatever centres the NDP built. But I also don't like the consolidation and closing of ER's by the PC's.

They're going to turn Concordia Hospital ER into a walk in clinic. St. Boniface will be over-run with broken arms and minor issues when they're the major centre for heart attacks and such.