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Originally Posted by outoftheice
Some renderings of the YYC Renovation project. Of note is the fact that all domestic security screening will be centralized at the B wing where the Air Canada check in desks have currently been located and it sounds like the same style of screening used in the International terminal will be used to speed up screening. The CAA appears to think that this will solve all the current wait time issues at security. I have to say that in terms of style the renderings of the renos don't give me too much hope.
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The plan to centralize domestic terminal security at the central area was first told to me way back in late 2014. At the 2016 CAA AGM, the CEO stated this was not the plan, but rather domestic security would be kept separate.
As to solving the wait time issues, one has to listen very carefully to the YYCAA CEO. The airport is providing the infrastructure to alleviate security lineups, however they hope the Federal government will provide sufficient funding so that Garda World will have enough lanes open.
Keep in mind that YYZ, YUL, and YVR all supplement Federal government funding to open up additional general lanes and keep Nexus lanes open longer. YYC has refused to go down this path.
So my prediction based on current operations is that YYC will pay for 10 CATSA plus machines, but Garda world will only have enough funding to have 4-6 lanes open. Line-ups will be constant as AC and WS trade alternating domestic departure bank times. Westjet Elites and Nexus card hiolders will get cheesed off when they are stuck with the much larger AC pax numbers.
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Originally Posted by boeing767300
For the folks that suggested YYC Duty Free is a straight through walk they are correct at least for International departures from the D gates. I have passed through many times and while annoying you just pass through and go to the gate. My concern is about accessing the E gates after clearing US Immigration. Once cleared by the immigration officer the passenger is confronted by a very steep escalator.
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The escalator is not steep, just longer than normal. There is alos a tunnel effect as the escalator is not open on either side.
My main complaint of the escalator is the 180 degree turn at the top. Yep, the once a year flyers stop at the top and look around. The permanently closed doorway to the right also causes momentary confusion as people look to see where the entrance is located.
The once year flyer does not react kindly to the suggestion they have to keep moving quickly because there are other people coming up the escalator behind them.
The once a year flyer has all ready been rushed through CATSA plus at the divest and recovery stations, rushed through US CBP primary inspection (the kiosks operate faster than most would like), and now must continually move towards the escalator (there are "no waiting" signs and people enforcement/education.
The top of the escalator is the breaking point for some as they are now vertically and horizontally separated from their friends stuck in the primary inspection process.
If you happen to be at the right place (bottom of the escalator) at the right time (when the elevator arrives), use the elevator for a much better experience.
The long term fix would be to reorient the escalator such that it is immediately facing opposite the USCBP primary inspection line. The pax then continues to move foward and up the escalator. At the top of the escalator, allow the pax to pass through Duty Free using 2-3 pathways, one of which is straight ahead.
Having the escalator inline with the general direction of travel will speed pax upstairs, giving pax a choice of pathways provides for escape routes.
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Originally Posted by Tobuz
Is some of the pre-security space (like the currently mostly dead and depressing "Banff Hall" shopping area) going to move post-security? I assume that YYC will need a lot more circulation space between the new entrance - where U.S. Customs used to be - and the A and C concourses.
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The security lane picture was obviously superimposed on existing terminal image.
The newer central hall area is completely different CGI product that does not exist today.
To get a big central hall area in the domestic terminal building, here is what needs to go:
- Montanas,
- Bagel place post security on concourse B.
- USCBP lineup area and connections bag claim.
- old transborder duty free
- USCBP offices.
- Kelsey's by concourse A,
- The nonsterile area immediately behind the flow through checkin desks where Chi-chi's is located.
In short everything between Kelsey's and Montanas should be turned into a preboard screening area and sterile (post security) food court and retail hall.
Once everything is opened up, the Link bus routes can be straightened out. Further I would suggest the Link shuttles are not required in their present purpose if central security is moved. Instead I would use the link shuttles throughout the domestic terminal and allow them to interact with pedestrian traffic. I would keep the thoughfare between B and C with a second throughfare between C and D.
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