ATLANTA | Development Thread VI - Page 426

Atlriser · #**8501** Posted **Jun 6, 2018, 9:33 PM**

No parking deck has been eliminated at the capital. They are demoing the old bridge that crossed capital Ave toward the twin State towers on MLK. All building are the same they have been except for the new judicial building which is now on level 3 and can be seen from the connector now where the 2 cranes are

Atlanta3000 · #**8502** Posted **Jun 6, 2018, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlueSangha

All we need now is someone to buy the Maggiano’s property and build a tower there.

Related Group, the developer of Icon Buckhead, owns that land and they are planning a Phase II.

scania · #**8503** Posted **Jun 6, 2018, 9:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlueSangha

I’m still pissed that Mandarin Oriental wasn’t built ON Peachtree. These two buildings together would have given so much presence on Peachtree.

But...Icon Buckhead (Apogee) along with 3344 Peachtree is an total eye catcher. Personally, I think it would be nice if Buckhead Towers invest a little money in lighting the towers for night time aesthetics.

The Best Forumer · #**8504** Posted **Jun 6, 2018, 9:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlueSangha

All we need now is someone to buy the Maggiano’s property and build a tower there.

Trust me... if I had the cash I would.

BlueSangha · #**8505** Posted **Jun 6, 2018, 9:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Related Group, the developer of Icon Buckhead, owns that land and they are planning a Phase II.

Raises eyebrow...

BlueSangha · #**8506** Posted **Jun 6, 2018, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by scania

But...Icon Buckhead (Apogee) along with 3344 Peachtree is an total eye catcher. Personally, I think it would be nice if Buckhead Towers invest a little money in lighting the towers for night time aesthetics.

I don’t disagree. MO should sell off that out building and the property so we could have something bigger built there.

3yonce · #**8507** Posted **Jun 6, 2018, 10:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Related Group, the developer of Icon Buckhead, owns that land and they are planning a Phase II.

Weren't there rumors of a future phase on the lot between Icon and Skyhouse, too?

BlueSangha · #**8508** Posted **Jun 6, 2018, 10:19 PM**

If I had the money, I would take the lots with the W and whatever that property is with the small glass box on it, level them, and build a Buckhead worthy mixed used development.

Martinman · #**8509** Posted **Jun 7, 2018, 1:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Related Group, the developer of Icon Buckhead, owns that land and they are planning a Phase II.

I don't think that's right. Phase II will overlook Stratford Road.

http://livablebuckhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/3372-Peachtree-Road-LBI-DRC-562015.pdf

sbrptree · #**8510** Posted **Jun 7, 2018, 1:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by daharris80

No, the "thing" I was referring to in that sentence was the parking garage over GA 400. If that's innovative.... And the idea of turning it into a park was tongue and cheek. Its ironic that 30 years ago someone decided to build an elevated parking monstrosity over 400 and now we're trying to build an innovative and beautifully designed park just a block north over the same interstate. Its a sign of shifting priorities. Also a shame that all of that "real estate" was created to house cars and now we're looking to spend tons of money to find space for people to live life.

Just to add some historic facts....the building was actually built BEFORE GA 400 was constructed; albeit it was designed knowing the highway would run underneath.

cabasse · #**8511** Posted **Jun 7, 2018, 4:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

My comments were not in regards to the poor, but to the working class - who live in the suburbs because the CoL is to high in the city, but work in the city. I totally support letting the developers decide their project's parking. However, many on here want to the CoA through land use zoning to significantly cut the parking requirements or eliminate them altogether and that is wrong at this juncture when the majority of our Metro is not accessible by mass transit.

What I don't understand is why you felt the need to have the commentary of the economics of our highway system when I said: LET'S FOCUS 100% OF OUR EFFORTS ON EXPANDING MARTA and the parking issue will go away. It's like anytime someone defends having parking in the short term the wheels come off and you can't read/comprehend the rest of my argument - I don't get it.

the two have to happen together, or you have dallas' situation where there's plenty of coverage but driving is still way more convenient, so ridership suffers. we have notably less expansive transit, but driving isn't quite as convenient here, (and marta is faster in the core) so we have far higher ridership numbers. (even though dallas and its transit system is bigger)

i agree with others that there should be no laws explicitly requiring minimum parking - at the very least, the market should decide that.

alco89 · #**8512** Posted **Jun 7, 2018, 10:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Martinman

I don't think that's right. Phase II will overlook Stratford Road.

http://livablebuckhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/3372-Peachtree-Road-LBI-DRC-562015.pdf

That's exactly what I'm remembering. But if Related owns the Maggiano's plot, maybe another phase or something totally different will get built there too.

PhunkyPho · #**8513** Posted **Jun 7, 2018, 12:46 PM**

WOOT WOOT!

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...ion-eyesore-sold-presidential-tower.html

Verge · #**8514** Posted **Jun 7, 2018, 12:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsvh

In metro Atlanta parking maximums are basically non-extant, and parking minimums are the norm. If we want to level the playing field lets scrap the minimums and let the market decide. And the poorest among us are not able to afford cars so support for transit is the more equitable option. Subsidies & policies for parking might as well be hangers for private jets as far as they are concerned.

Cars, parking, and highways simply are not an economical or efficient way to move everyone around in large cities. Even our toll lanes aren't paying for themselves. And if we are going to choose one to subsidize over the other is should be transit over parking / highways since it is more accessible (both by those with disabilities and the poorest among us), equitable, more environmentally friendly, safer, has more economic benefits, and supports a healthier lifestyle.

Point being, right now we are forcing developers and thus the future tenants and patrons to subsidize parking they may not want to. It puts a drag on many high-rise projects which in the world as a whole are much less often built with parking included. Lets at least get a level playing field for people to decide what is really worth it when it comes to transportation. Lets stop pretending parking minimums are really some crusade to help the poor. They are not. Let businesses & developers decide on their own if they would prefer to target more pedestrians, transit riders, or drivers.

Almost all of the city's SPI districts have parking maximums and many districts already have NO requirement for parking. Its not zoning-- its financing-- no one will finance anything of any size without parking in Atlanta--