General Vancouver Updates - Page 343

Changing City · #**6841** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 6:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by chrisel

Got these in the mail yesterday. Looks like it'll replace the Park Inn currently at the site:

That's an interesting development. There were rumours of another hotel coming to the north side of West Broadway, but it hasn't materialized as a proposal yet.

Presumably the developers have done their due diligence on the height they can achieve without interfering with the helicopter operations at the hospital. That has been a significant factor in limiting development along that block up to now.

s211 · #**6842** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 7:08 PM**

I wonder if the proposed project would include a full demo and rebuild in place of the existing hotel building, or instead gut to the skeleton and redo.

Prometheus · #**6843** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 7:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

Presumably the developers have done their due diligence on the height they can achieve without interfering with the helicopter operations at the hospital. That has been a significant factor in limiting development along that block up to now.

Do you know what specific regulations/legislation govern the height limitations of developments around VGH?

officedweller · #**6844** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 8:05 PM**

Nice looking project - like all of the Arno Matis designs.

11 and 13 residential (hotel) storeys -
Probably about the same height as the nearby 988 Broadway office block (40.2M, 10 office storeys).

BUT... the mail-out postcard says 71.6M (11 storey) and 77.2M (13 storey)
- those must be wrong, as those would provide 6.5M and 5.9M ceilings, respectively.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by chrisel

Got these in the mail yesterday. Looks like it'll replace the Park Inn currently at the site:

Changing City · #**6845** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 8:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

Do you know what specific regulations/legislation govern the height limitations of developments around VGH?

It's the Transport Canada guidelines on operating air ambulances. They stopped flights to VGH for six months in 2016 (and patients had to go elsewhere and then have an ambulance transfer) as there were concerns about the helicopters used by Helijet.

There was a long discussion that delayed the Bosa office at Oak. There's a memo that explains that resolution. As far as I know, nothing stops the City from approving a building that affects the flight path, but obviously they wouldn't want to be accused of causing loss of life by preventing critical cases being able to land at VGH.

GenWhy? · #**6846** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 10:33 PM**

I heard of a 10-storey building proposed in Hastings-Sunrise right on Hastings. Anyone think the community is okay with that?

I have some images of other buildings that submitted their DP Applciations I'll sare if I can figure out how to do that on this website in a secretive way.

Prometheus · #**6847** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 10:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

It's the Transport Canada guidelines on operating air ambulances. They stopped flights to VGH for six months in 2016 (and patients had to go elsewhere and then have an ambulance transfer) as there were concerns about the helicopters used by Helijet.

There was a long discussion that delayed the Bosa office at Oak. There's a memo that explains that resolution.

Thank you for your reply.

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Originally Posted by Changing City

As far as I know, nothing stops the City from approving a building that affects the flight path, but obviously they wouldn't want to be accused of causing loss of life by preventing critical cases being able to land at VGH.

I wonder why it doesn't seem to be a problem for Toronto, which has tall buildings within its hospital district and is approving new, very tall ones, like 488 University Avenue.

officedweller · #**6848** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 11:00 PM**

I think their helipads may be higher up.

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Originally Posted by officedweller

WRT helicopter flight paths, here's a article on 2 new residential towers under the flight path into Toronto's Sick Kids Hospital:

http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/04/two-building-condo-development-proposed-bay-and-edward

The orange swath is the flight path:

Helicopter flight path above Bay and Edward Condos, image retrieved from the City of Toronto
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/04/two-building-condo-development-proposed-bay-and-edward

EDIT: Sound insulating requirements:

http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/04/two-building-condo-development-proposed-bay-and-edward

Prometheus · #**6849** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 11:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

I think their helipads may be higher up.

The Sick Kid's helipad in Toronto is located much further below the tallest surrounding buildings (which include a 55-storey building currently under construction one block away) than the VGH's helipad is. I am curious why that does not present an issue in Toronto but does in Vancouver.

officedweller · #**6850** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 11:21 PM**

Yeah, but Vancouver tends to be overly cautious, too.
Or maybe the flight path is a scapegoat for "no tall buildings".

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From Granville twitter:

https://twitter.com/GranvilleStreet

officedweller · #**6851** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 3:44 AM**

Don't think these have been posted - both market rental:

610 Kingsway

http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/610kingsway/index.htm

http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/610kingsway/documents/Renderings.pdf

855 Kingsway

http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/855kingsway/index.htm

http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/855kingsway/documents/Renderings.pdf

vanman · #**6852** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 6:33 AM**

Kingsway is starting to look like Broadway with all the midrise infill.

whatnext · #**6853** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 6:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Yeah, but Vancouver tends to be overly cautious, too.
Or maybe the flight path is a scapegoat for "no tall buildings".

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From Granville twitter:

https://twitter.com/GranvilleStreet

The most interesting thing is the banner showing that all the units aren't sold. Virtually all of those South Granville developments have not sold out, an= telling reversal from a year or two ago. Canary in the coal mine?

officedweller · #**6854** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 8:48 AM**

Rendering of the
Villa Cathay Care Home
Venable & Raymur

https://twitter.com/VanMarInc

s211 · #**6855** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 4:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by vanman

Kingsway is starting to look like Broadway with all the midrise infill.

As it should, I contend. There's practically a generation's worth of development potential along Kingsway.

phesto · #**6856** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 4:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Rendering of the
Villa Cathay Care Home
Venable & Raymur

https://twitter.com/VanMarInc

Stared at this for a good minute trying to decide if I like it, hate it, or if we're not certain this is actually a rendering from a never-built project from 1995.

idunno · #**6857** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 4:13 PM**

I was about to say - this looks like something straight out of the 90s - what's it doing here 25 years later?!

WarrenC12 · #**6858** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Yeah, but Vancouver tends to be overly cautious, too.
Or maybe the flight path is a scapegoat for "no tall buildings".

Well, Transport Canada was the one that grounded flights to VGH. It also impacted BC Children's Hospital during the same time. Could be a Helijet issue, I don't know what they use in Ontario.

Worth noting, I'm told there was a proposition for a new Helipad on the roof of the new BC Children's, but it was scuttled by NIMBYs... I don't know how it makes a difference.

officedweller · #**6859** Posted **Apr 4, 2018, 8:50 AM**

From the Hive - more info on the Broadway Ramada redevelopment:

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/878-898-west-broadway-vancouver-hotel

Elevations must be above sea level. The story references a max height of 142 ft.

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/878-898-west-broadway-vancouver-hotel

s211 · #**6860** Posted **Apr 4, 2018, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

From the Hive - more info on the Broadway Ramada redevelopment:

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/878-898-west-broadway-vancouver-hotel

Elevations must be above sea level. The story references a max height of 142 ft.

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/878-898-west-broadway-vancouver-hotel

"9th Street"??? Actually that's 10th Avenue. Technically, Broadway is 9th AVENUE.