PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Should be noted that when I say they've begun work, I don't know for sure if that is what this is for. The building currently has scaffolding and construction equipment everywhere, and it seems they've been gutting the building for about a year now. Hopefully this is what that is all for.

Hard to say, since that's a very old rendering (2010). I seem to recall it was going to consist of 2 phases: a separate apartment building adjacent and then the over-build of the grain elevator itself. The apartment building, covering most of the 1900 block of Callowhill St., was completed some time ago. EDIT: After searching a bit, I found some clarity; see links below.

https://goo.gl/maps/srmdtKEiRBz

http://thegranaryapts.com/

The developer, Pearl, flipped the completed apt building known as The Granary over 4 years ago, so I'm not sure of the status of the original Granary behind it.

https://www.multihousingnews.com/post/lo...rs-acquires-the-granary-in-philadelphia/

Found this Inga Saffron article from 2010, which sheds some light (the Interface Studios' concept for the Granary was quickly killed off by Historical Commission and neighborhood objections.):

http://www.philly.com/philly/home/201010...n_harvests_a_bounty_of_bland_design.html

...and there's a 2016 Plan Philly piece on the grain elevator. The accompanying picture has that same scaffolding in place 2 years ago.

http://planphilly.com/articles/2016/04/22/building-stories-the-granary

May as well throw in the 1980 nomination form for the National Register of Historic Places:

http://www.dot7.state.pa.us/CRGIS_Attachments/SiteResource/H001456_01H.pdf

[Gonzo the Great]

Holy bat — , bird man . I just watched a three minute video about SB's plan for Lincoln Yards in Chicago .

The sales pitch to Amazon is hard to ignore and although Chicago was not on my top " 3 " list for luring them in ,
it certainly is a location to think about ...... This could be an unexpected problem for Philly's bid .

Watch the video .......

[JohnIII]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Here's a project that seems to have gone under the radar:
http://www.is-architects.com/the-granary/8fzakxri8a8vnjq5sok2l9osq70ygh
They've already started working on it. Not sure about exact height, but the website has it just under the society hill towers, which would put it around 280'! Props to them for taking a really undesirable building and making it into something new.

Ah yes; that's the old Granary; I think they just started work on that. This is not to be confused with another Granary near Grays Ferry where they are also doing work by tearing out the concrete platform for trains and trucks to use.

[Randomguy34]

Originally Posted by Gonzo the Great

Holy bat — , bird man . I just watched a three minute video about SB's plan for Lincoln Yards in Chicago .

The sales pitch to Amazon is hard to ignore and although Chicago was not on my top " 3 " list for luring them in ,
it certainly is a location to think about ...... This could be an unexpected problem for Philly's bid .

Watch the video .......

Is this the video?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/94988453-132.html

[Gonzo the Great]

Originally Posted by Randomguy34

Is this the video?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/94988453-132.html

Yes ...... Sorry for not posting the video address along with the story . I was so interested in what
I was watching , I forgot the address .

[JurassicPhilly]

Originally Posted by Gonzo the Great

Holy bat — , bird man . I just watched a three minute video about SB's plan for Lincoln Yards in Chicago .

The sales pitch to Amazon is hard to ignore and although Chicago was not on my top " 3 " list for luring them in ,
it certainly is a location to think about ...... This could be an unexpected problem for Philly's bid .

Watch the video .......

Nah. Location, location, location. They are already in Seattle. What would they gain by only moving halfway across the country to Chicago? It makes no sense. They are going to the Southeast or the Northeast.

[PhilliesPhan]

I’ll post pics when I get back to campus, but I saw site prep occurring on the site of the proposed hotel on 19th and Ludlow!

[TechTalkGuy]

Philadelphia’s Amazon pitch:

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[Skyscraper.Phanatic]

I think the fact that amazon specifically wants an east coast city will not bode well for chicago's bid. Boston, atl, dc, newark/nyc and yes philly are still in the running. Miami may be a possibility, but i would think is not a likely candidate. It's sad chris christie had to bate amazon with a $ 7 billion package and not a dime towards camden's proposal that i know of.

[EastSideHBG]

Originally Posted by Gonzo the Great

Whoa there Badger dude . I didn't join in on the thread until Dec 2016 , not 2015 . In addition to that , I really don't remember what I had for breakfast this past Saturday let alone being able to answer year old questions .... but your sleuthing compelled
me to ask yet another question .... where do you find the time to search out posts from the stone age ..... and why .

PS ; jjv007 , thanks for your input .

[Kidphilly]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

https://www.aiaphiladelphia.org/news/das-architects-cambria-hotel-opens-march-ritzy-jazz-inspired-high-rise-roof-top-venue-elevates









Who's up for a CD Philly version meet and great with a view (semi serious)





Actually excited to see this place as Philly desperately needs roof lounges

from over on a CD 2035 thread

Thought would post it here, if this happens can inform here might be fun

I know off topic but thought might be good for some of the regular posters on these sites

[jsbrook]

These are pretty nice for the location: 18th street just South of Spring Garden.

https://northxnorthwest.com/gallery/

Great views of Center City. I think we will continue to see "Spring Arts" and Fairmount develop. Completed sometime in 2017 and now leasing. https://www.google.com/maps/place/450+N+...1b76537d0!8m2!3d39.9621504!4d-75.1681493 https://www.google.com/maps/place/450+N+...1b76537d0!8m2!3d39.9621504!4d-75.1681493

[iheartphilly]

^
Neat art installation to the front entrance.

[jsbrook]

Originally Posted by iheartphilly

^
Neat art installation to the front entrance.

Yep. Looks like it had been there and they kept it. Looks like the North tower is an older building that received modest renovations. There used to be a street with this sculpture adjacent. It and the adjacent parking lot were paved over and turned into the new tower (Northwest) and entrance with the art installation.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/450+N+...1b76537d0!8m2!3d39.9621504!4d-75.1681493

https://www.google.com/maps/place/450+N+...1b76537d0!8m2!3d39.9621504!4d-75.1681493

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

Hard to say, since that's a very old rendering (2010). I seem to recall it was going to consist of 2 phases: a separate apartment building adjacent and then the over-build of the grain elevator itself. The apartment building, covering most of the 1900 block of Callowhill St., was completed some time ago. EDIT: After searching a bit, I found some clarity; see links below.

https://goo.gl/maps/srmdtKEiRBz

http://thegranaryapts.com/

The developer, Pearl, flipped the completed apt building known as The Granary over 4 years ago, so I'm not sure of the status of the original Granary behind it.

https://www.multihousingnews.com/post/lo...rs-acquires-the-granary-in-philadelphia/

Found this Inga Saffron article from 2010, which sheds some light (the Interface Studios' concept for the Granary was quickly killed off by Historical Commission and neighborhood objections.):

http://www.philly.com/philly/home/201010...n_harvests_a_bounty_of_bland_design.html

...and there's a 2016 Plan Philly piece on the grain elevator. The accompanying picture has that same scaffolding in place 2 years ago.

http://planphilly.com/articles/2016/04/22/building-stories-the-granary

May as well throw in the 1980 nomination form for the National Register of Historic Places:

http://www.dot7.state.pa.us/CRGIS_Attachments/SiteResource/H001456_01H.pdf

Check this out:
A bunch of old photos

[allovertown]

For the people who have debated here that there will be widespread driverless cars within a decade: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/te...ick&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Driver operated cars kill tons of pedestrians of course. But it is a matter of perception. Incidents like this will massively delay driverless cars becoming widespread in near future. I've said it before the biggest roadblocks aren't technological. They're perception and politics.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by allovertown

For the people who have debated here that there will be widespread driverless cars within a decade: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/te...ick&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Driver operated cars kill tons of pedestrians of course. But it is a matter of perception. Incidents like this will massively delay driverless cars becoming widespread in near future. I've said it before the biggest roadblocks aren't technological. They're perception and politics.

Very sad story. Agreed that perception and politics are the biggest roadblocks, but $$$$ is the biggest driver and, in most cases, trumps those roadblocks. Not to get too political, but the Keystone Pipeline is an example of this that pops right out - the technology is there, technically the safest way to transport this stuff, but lot's of fear and political will against it. It's not a perfect apples to apples comparison, but it demonstrates the point. If the powers that be see lot's of green from autonomous vehicles, they'll happen.

[FourS]

With driverless cars, it's more than perception or fear. A lot of it will boil down to culpability. Who is responsible criminally or financially when people die or property is damaged? We always need someone to blame. Does the manufacturer take on the insurance burden, or the software programmer, or the operator (who isn't really operating anything). These are not insurmountable questions and they will eventually be sorted out, but it may take a while.

[alasi]

Just a thought, that Site at 22nd market needs an industrial cleanup. What if we turned it into at 1500 ft vertical solar farm. I'd be interested in how much energy could be produced. Would we still need the clean up?

[allovertown]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Very sad story. Agreed that perception and politics are the biggest roadblocks, but $$$$ is the biggest driver and, in most cases, trumps those roadblocks. Not to get too political, but the Keystone Pipeline is an example of this that pops right out - the technology is there, technically the safest way to transport this stuff, but lot's of fear and political will against it. It's not a perfect apples to apples comparison, but it demonstrates the point. If the powers that be see lot's of green from autonomous vehicles, they'll happen.

I agree that money trumps all, but on the issue of driverless cars, I don't think it is clear that all the money would line up on the same side. Uber, google, etc are leading the way on driverless cars and these are companies that of course have a lot of money.

On the other hand though, I would think traditional car companies probably view driverless cars with a healthy dose of skepticism. Many have stated eventually driverless cars will take us to a future where no one owns their own cars. That future can't be good for traditional car companies, who are used to individual owners with multiple cars who purchase new cars every few years. Auto mechanics, consumer auto parts stores, etc would be among the various other entities that could line up against driverless cars. That's why I'm not sure money will be the factor you think it is, because as much money will be lobbying for allowing driverless cars, there will probably be just as much money lobbying against allowing driverless cars.