Paradox Hotel (1151 W Georgia) | 188m | 67 Fl | Completed

[Doodler]

Originally Posted by bb1510

As the hotel portions of the Ritz Carlton in the previous iteration was designed by world renowned interior designer Yabu Puschelberg, you can expect their fees to be sky high. Now with Trump, they were axed and a different firm was hired; I believe Box Interior Design.

However, if you take a look at the as built hotel lobby bar as well as the spiral staircase and then take a look at other Yabu Puschelberg projects such as the Park Hyatt New York, you can definitely tell the similarities between the two, albeit 'cost engineered' and a less refined and elegant version.

I believe you are quite wrong with this observation. Box Interior Design was hired when the project was restarted (after the Ritz Carlton and before the Trump flag was signed on). Box resigned from the project and the interiors were then completed by the interiors department of project architect, MCM. Other elements you see in the lobby were also designed by Burdi Filek out of Toronto. Holborn took great liberties with the designs for all areas and really no firm's work was carried out as designed.

[bb1510]

Originally Posted by Doodler

I believe you are quite wrong with this observation. Box Interior Design was hired when the project was restarted (after the Ritz Carlton and before the Trump flag was signed on). Box resigned from the project and the interiors were then completed by the interiors department of project architect, MCM. Other elements you see in the lobby were also designed by Burdi Filek out of Toronto. Holborn took great liberties with the designs for all areas and really no firm's work was carried out as designed.

I'm not talking about who did what during the Trump era of the project but rather, the as built portions of current hotel look rather similar of those by Yabu Puschelberg, the original firm signed for the hotel portion of the Ritz Carlton project

[officedweller]

The lighting on Trump has been alternating between green and red for the holidays.
I think is shuts off at 10:00pm though.

[bb1510]

Too bad all the photos are compressed and descaled :/

Dusk views towards English Bay:



Daytime pano:




Festival of Lights 2017:




Canada Day 2017 (even from the lower floors, it's still quite spectacular):




New Years 2018 (a bit hazy)

[SpongeG]

I read elsewhere that yelpers were doing it to all trump properties and they brought down the rating from a 5 to a 2 one of the trump hotels in washington DC

Vancouver's Trump Tower a 'shithole,' say Yelp reviewers

According to a recent surge in Yelp reviews for the Trump Champagne Lounge at Vancouver’s Trump Tower, the place is a “total shithole.”

Donald Trump made international headlines last week when racist comments he made about immigrants leaked out to the media. In a meeting, Trump asked why the United States should take in migrants from “shithole countries,” including Haiti and African nations, rather than overwhelmingly white nations like Norway.

Trump said days afterwards he never made the comments, but multiple legislators in attendance at the meeting have insisted he did.

Trump’s comments were met with a considerable backlash, both by members of the opposition Democrats and even some within his own party. The United Nations said it was impossible to describe his remarks as anything other than racist. The African Union called the remarks “clearly racist.” The Vatican called Trump’s words “particularly harsh and offensive.”

But that wasn’t enough for those who don’t have the option of release a damning statement, except on social media, where you can say pretty much anything. So many took to Yelp, where there are many, many Trump-branded establishments that can be reviewed by their guests, since the real estate tycoon will put his name on just about anything.


On Tuesday, CNN reported that the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., had seen its average Yelp rating drop from four out of five stars to two stars thanks to almost 800 one-star reviews describing the hotel as a “shithole.” Mar-A-Lago’s Yelp page was besieged with similar comments, as were Trump hotels in other states, and even other countries.

...

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/vancouvers-trump-tower-a-shithole-say-yelp-reviewers

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

well google rates it a 3.6 right now. trip adviser says it is 4.5 seems people forgot about this one.

[officedweller]

"We are thrilled to welcome Trump International Hotel & Tower® Vancouver as one of our newest Five-Star award recipients..."
said Jerry Inzerillo, COO of @ForbesInspector.
https://twitter.com/trumpvancouver

Trump International Hotel & Tower® Vancouver Recognized With 2018 Forbes Five-Star Designation
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases...bes-five-star-designation-674906403.html

FIVE TRUMP HOTELS RECOGNIZED AS FORBES FIVE-STAR PROPERTIES
https://www.trumphotels.com/press-releas...c&utm_medium=email&utm_content=learnmore

Forbes' Vancouver ratings:
https://www.forbestravelguide.com/destinations/vancouver-canada

Rosewood Hotel Georgia, Trump and Four Seasons (what about the lawsuit?) are the only 5 star hotels.
Shangri-La, Sutton Place and Fairmont Pacific Rim are 4 star.
JW Marriott at the Parq not yet rated.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/01/politics/ivanka-trump-fbi-investigation/index.html

US counterintelligence officials are scrutinizing one of Ivanka Trump's international business deals, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

The FBI has been looking into the negotiations and financing surrounding Trump International Hotel and Tower in Vancouver, according to a US official and a former US official. The scrutiny could be a hurdle for the first daughter as she tries to obtain a full security clearance in her role as adviser to President Donald Trump.

It's standard procedure to probe foreign contacts and international business deals as part of a background check investigation. But the complexity of the Trump Organization's business deals, which often rely on international financing and buyers, presents a challenge.

The FBI has been looking closely at the international business entanglements of both Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner, to determine whether any of those deals could leave them vulnerable to pressure from foreign agents, including China, according to a US official.

[Spr0ckets]

From the link:

"In the case of Vancouver, it's not clear why investigators are examining this particular deal. The timing of the deal -- as one of the few Trump-branded properties to open since Trump took office -- could be of interest.The flow of foreign money, either from the developer or international condo buyers, could also be sparking scrutiny."

LOLOLOL!

Don't they realise that this is just the norm for Vancouver?

I would have thought that this would have been one of the first things the FBI would have figured out.

Move along folks,..
...nothing to see here.

It was a bit funny reading how they hammered out the deal in the Celebrity Apprentice boardroom,.....like an actual reality TV show.
So meta, in some ways.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by FrankieFlowerpot

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/01/politics/ivanka-trump-fbi-investigation/index.html

I was more interested in:

The development -- a 616-foot beacon dotting the Vancouver skyline and featuring a trademarked Ivanka Trump spa -- opened in February 2017, just after Trump took office.

The Trump Organization does not own the building. Instead, like other Trump projects, it receives licensing and marketing fees from the developer, Joo Kim Tiah. A scion of one of Malaysia's wealthiest families, Tiah runs his family's Canada-based development company Holborn Group. President Trump's June financial disclosure form said the Trump Organization made more than $5 million in royalties and $21,500 in management fees from the Vancouver property.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Sheba

I was more interested in:

Would be cheaper to pay $1M penalty to get out of the Trump contract and re brand as something else.

[Klazu]

Lol, CNN and their trademark 'sources familiar with the matter'. Yeah, I am going to assume that there is once again no truth to anything they write...

Bb1510, I had missed your photos above. Great set! Do your folks still live in the tower?

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Lol, CNN and their trademark 'sources familiar with the matter'. Yeah, I am going to assume that there is once again no truth to anything they write...

Bb1510, I had missed your photos above. Great set! Do your folks still live in the tower?

Interestingly, Van Jones, the renowned CNN talkshow host, was in Vancouver giving a talk just this past Wednesday with an SFU/Vancity organized panel about the future of work. I wonder if he was also here as part of his CNN investigative journalism talkshow regarding Trump and his illicit business, of which the Vancouver Trump tower is prime and centre now.

https://www.sfu.ca/sfunews/stories/2018/...aughter-sfu-public-square-vancouver.html

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by casper

Would be cheaper to pay $1M penalty to get out of the Trump contract and re brand as something else.

Dream on with your $1 million dollar penalty figure.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Dream on with your $1 million dollar penalty figure.

Yup, seems low. It was never disclosed what the Trump Organization was paid to get their name off the Toronto property.

[casper]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Yup, seems low. It was never disclosed what the Trump Organization was paid to get their name off the Toronto property.

Yup. Your correct, I thought I remembered $1M but sources say it is closer to $6M.

http://business.financialpost.com/real-e...sign-comes-off-toronto-tower-on-august-1

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by casper

Yup. Your correct, I thought I remembered $1M but sources say it is closer to $6M.

http://business.financialpost.com/real-e...sign-comes-off-toronto-tower-on-august-1

Or they could go the route of the Trump property in Panama:

The Trump International Hotel and Tower here is President Trump’s only hotel property in Latin America. At 70 stories, it is the tallest building in Panama, offers sweeping views of Panama Bay and features five outdoor swimming pools. The rooms come with Trump branded bathrobes, stationery and mouthwash.

But in recent days, guests have witnessed a decidedly less glamorous side of the operation: Yelling and shoving matches involving security personnel and others, the presence of police in Kevlar helmets, and various interventions by Panamanian labor regulators, forensic specialists and a justice of the peace.
The source of the drama? The businessman who recently purchased a majority stake in the hotel wants the Trumps out. And the Trumps, who have a long-term contract to manage the property, are refusing to go.

In a letter marked “Private & Confidential” to the hotel’s other owners, the businessman, Orestes Fintiklis, likened the Trumps to leeches who had attached to the property, “draining our last drops of blood,” according to a copy reviewed by The New York Times. He has also filed legal actions accusing the Trump family business, the Trump Organization, of mismanaging the hotel...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/world...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

[trofirhen]

Is there any way that, given the examples cited above, this could mean that the TRUMP name could be "bought out" and taken off the hotel in Vancouver?
With the reputation that goes with it, what should be about the most prominent and elegant hotel in the city, both architecturally and concommitantly in prestige,
should not be sullied by the now-befouled TRUMP image. Would getting out from under the TRUMP yoke and giving it new management - and name - be possible?
(Someone please say "yes" .....)

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Is there any way that, given the examples cited above, this could mean that the TRUMP name could be "bought out" and taken off the hotel in Vancouver?
With the reputation that goes with it, what should be about the most prominent and elegant hotel in the city, both architecturally and concommitantly in prestige,
should not be sullied by the now-befouled TRUMP image. Would getting out from under the TRUMP yoke and giving it new management - and name - be possible?
(Someone please say "yes" .....)

anything is possible, but it depends on how much money people want to spend. anything can be bought-out/sold to someone else, but if the current branding isn't hurting business, then unless someone personally wants to change it, a business generally wont.

if it hasn't happened by now, though, i doubt it will happen in the near future. check back at the next US Election; that could motivate people.

[trofirhen]

Regarding the TRUMP brand elsewhere, this might be interesting.
It's an update on what is happening in Panama.
I leave it to forumers more knowledgeable than I to decide whether it may or may not be pertinent to here.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-police-...panama-property-174000776--politics.html