YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[casper]

Originally Posted by teriyaki

Then how come NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) only encompasses 3 countries . Food for thought

The same reason Switzerland is not part of the European Union or the UK is leaving. One is a geographic use of the word and the other is a political use.

[Johnny Aussie]

Why is it “unfortunate” Central America geographically is included as part of North America. All because it added three cities to the list?



Whether YVR is 7th, 8th, 10th or 11th bloody impressive stats which are only going to grow.

[Denscity]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Why is it “unfortunate” Central America geographically is included as part of North America. All because it added three cities to the list?



Whether YVR is 7th, 8th, 10th or 11th bloody impressive stats which are only going to grow.

Totally

[Johnny Aussie]

Looks like KE is keeping its daily YVR-ICN flight a 789 year round.

Say good bye to YVR’s only 748i route.

Perhaps just a bit too big for the route. That’s 100 seats less per day but a big drop in premium seats. Again showing YVR’s premium market still likely struggles a bit.

Also with all the other increases to Asia lately that was a lot of capacity to be absorbing in quite a short period.

SYD and HNL also losing their 748s. SFO and ATL picking them up.

[Gordon]

Would the 747 800i be a good fit for YVR - HKG or YVR PEK?

Any construction updates on the new D pier gate?

[trofirhen]

There's a lot of publicity about the Pier D extension, and it will serve as a great introduction for pax flying to Vancouver for the first time, no dispute.
*
But what about Pier E? It's sort of the counterpart of Pier D, and is mostly for Transborder departures, unless I am wrong. However, I thought that transborder increases
were to go from an extension (Pier F ??) Will Pier E be extended as the main, and only USA departure pier? How does it fit into the scheme of things, please.
Thank you.

[Chikinlittle]

Originally Posted by Denscity

Interesting. I was always taught NA was made up of three countries. Funny it took this long for a correction haha.

There is no legal definition or entity of North America, so debate away.

What's important for this conversation is to understand that while PTY may exist on this list, almost entirely all traffic will be international since there is nearly no possible domestic traffic to speak of, contrary to that of Canada or USA specifically. So by the nature of that, is warrants at least an asterisk (*) to disclaim the difference in nature of those two geographical circumstances.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Chikinlittle

There is no legal definition or entity of North America, so debate away.

What's important for this conversation is to understand that while PTY may exist on this list, almost entirely all traffic will be international since there is nearly no possible domestic traffic to speak of, contrary to that of Canada or USA specifically. So by the nature of that, is warrants at least an asterisk (*) to disclaim the difference in nature of those two geographical circumstances.

I believe the official division between North and South America is the Darien Gap separating Colombia and Panama.
In any event, I think most geographers call Panama, Costa Rica, etc part of North America, even though that part of the continent seems rather an "appendage."
Anyway, this is off-thread .... unless flights to Panama City or Bogotà come up.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Why is it “unfortunate” Central America geographically is included as part of North America. All because it added three cities to the list?

Ya that's it. Not really a big deal as the importance of YVR has nothing to do with PTY.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Looks like KE is keeping its daily YVR-ICN flight a 789 year round.

Say good bye to YVR’s only 748i route.

Perhaps just a bit too big for the route. That’s 100 seats less per day but a big drop in premium seats. Again showing YVR’s premium market still likely struggles a bit.

Also with all the other increases to Asia lately that was a lot of capacity to be absorbing in quite a short period.

SYD and HNL also losing their 748s. SFO and ATL picking them up.

Total bummer.

Looks like SYD, YVR, and HNL lost their 748s and SFO, ATL, and FCO gained one. Makes me happier that SYD lost theirs too though, as that must be a high yielding market.



Only possible silver lining here is it may open the door for Asiana who just today announced a renewed focus on long haul operations:

In response to increasing demand for low-cost carriers, Asiana Airlines will pursue a new business strategy centered on long-range flights, the company said.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20180206000634

Would gladly trade:

1xAC789 and 1x KE748i

for

1xAC789, 1xKE789 and 1xOZ772

[trofirhen]

I wish ASIANA would fly to YVR, especially being *A

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Total bummer.

Looks like SYD, YVR, and HNL lost their 748s and SFO, ATL, and FCO gained one. Makes me happier that SYD lost theirs too though, as that must be a high yielding market.



Only possible silver lining here is it may open the door for Asiana who just today announced a renewed focus on long haul operations:

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20180206000634

Would gladly trade:

1xAC789 and 1x KE748i

for

1xAC789, 1xKE789 and 1xOZ772

I was trying to find an old article where the CEO of Asiana had highlighted a very short list of most likely / potential new destinations and YVR was mentioned second. That was about 5 years ago before the SFO crash though. They were reportedly looking around for ground handlers, catering etc.

That new article, in the Korea Herald above, mentioned something about introducing A380s in April along with A350s. Pretty sure their A380s have been fully deployed and like most airlines aren't getting any more. Anyway, I'm sure they are still looking at YVR and YVR would be on their radar but who knows. Again, as mentioned in a recent post of mine, it's equipment like the 787s and 350s that have opened up many opportunities for more YVR routes and new airlines.

[Johnny Aussie]

Not a huge deal but... AC YVR-MEX is being moved back to mainline next summer. More comfy ride for the 5 1/2 hour flight.

[teriyaki]

Asiana has some antique cabins on some of their 777-200s. They have plenty of a350s on order though. Would love to see another new tail in YVR.

[nname]

YVR-CAN will be up-gauge to a 77W in the summer.

[CareerShow]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Not a huge deal but... AC YVR-MEX is being moved back to mainline next summer. More comfy ride for the 5 1/2 hour flight.

Thank goodness. I would speculate a lot of traffic on this Mexico route is actually premium........and the Rouge product just wasn't up to snuff.

[jmt18325]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Not a huge deal but... AC YVR-MEX is being moved back to mainline next summer. More comfy ride for the 5 1/2 hour flight.

Not thread relevant, but what about YYZ?

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by CareerShow

Thank goodness. I would speculate a lot of traffic on this Mexico route is actually premium........and the Rouge product just wasn't up to snuff.

Plus with (soon to be) four carriers in the route AC needs to be more competitive. This is one of the YVR routes that has seen a huge increase in capacity in the last 12 months.

[hollywoodcory]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

Not thread relevant, but what about YYZ?

YYZ-MEX is still being operated by Rouge this summer. On the 767 too from what I see.

[twoNeurons]

I'll be testing out ICN-YVR on AC this summer.

787 Inbound YVR-NRT (JL)
787 Outbound KIX-ICN-YVR (AC)

It'll be nice to compare the two... I don't have high expectations of service for the outbound trip... but it was a better option than KIX-YVR direct on rouge.