The Ugly Canada Thread - Page 607

lio45 · #**12121** Posted **Jan 31, 2018, 11:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

I imagine it being like Franks' delivery more often than not.

I doubt that. Pretty much everyone I know shortens the names of the main fast food chains to "McDo" and "Tim". No ambiguity whatsoever to justify the need for a longer version that's hard to pronounce.

O-tacular · #**12122** Posted **Jan 31, 2018, 11:13 PM**

The inverse of the francophone pronunciations of English chains and words are the laughable examples of anglophones butchering french and spanish names. I'm not sure which sounds grosser "Poo-tine" or "Poo-teen". I also get a kick out of people ordering "JA-LA-Pinos" peppers.

kwoldtimer · #**12123** Posted **Jan 31, 2018, 11:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

The inverse of the francophone pronunciations of English chains and words are the laughable examples of anglophones butchering french and spanish names. I'm not sure which sounds grosser "Poo-tine" or "Poo-teen". I also get a kick out of people ordering "JA-LA-Pinos" peppers.

Italian suffers similar indignities. I cringe at "brushetta". Hate to think what some people could do to "gnocchi".

Although I confess that "poo-teen" sounds about right to me. Especially the "poo"...

HomeInMyShoes · #**12124** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 12:02 AM**

Sacrilege. Unbeliever. You obviously have only seen the poutine at KFC and A&W or Smuttys if they serve it which they probably do.

kwoldtimer · #**12125** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 12:09 AM**

I will go to my grave never having tried poutine. Is "poutine" French for "swill" or is it "slop". I can never remember ....

The Peruvians did it first and best with their "lomo saltado".

franktko · #**12126** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 3:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

I will go to my grave never having tried poutine.

MolsonExport · #**12127** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 3:44 AM**

A good poutine is manna from the Gods.

The shittier-looking the casse-croute, the better is the Poutine.

kwoldtimer · #**12128** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 4:05 AM**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL82NWkBOOk

Nathan · #**12129** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 4:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

The inverse of the francophone pronunciations of English chains and words are the laughable examples of anglophones butchering french and spanish names. I'm not sure which sounds grosser "Poo-tine" or "Poo-teen". I also get a kick out of people ordering "JA-LA-Pinos" peppers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought poo-TEEN would be more the France-french pronunciation (vs poo-TIN), like fa-REEN vs the more Quebecois fa-RIN?

And the only time I've ever heard someone say JA-LA-pinos was as a joke. I'm truly empathetic if you've heard it otherwise.

That said, almost EVERY "foreign" food goes through a similar cringe-worthy anglicization process. Take perogies... It's a bit of a bastardization of Polish and Ukrainian to start (and possibly others, but these two are the most prevalent in Canada), with пиріг/pyrih/pierog singular and пироги/pyrohy/pierogi as plural. But through a bit of morphing/latinization of Ukrainian cyrillic and the polish word + pluralizing the already plural form, you get...

Perogies, a pluralization of a mixture of the already plural Ukrainian/Polish words.

(and technically, not even the standard Ukrainian word at that, but the dialectic one used by the immigrants who came in the early waves).

Acajack · #**12130** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 4:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Is that something a customer would say, or is it something a waitress might call out to a short order cook?

Goode questione. If a customer were to say thay it would be in a joking way.

Loco101 · #**12131** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 4:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

LOL, oh that brings back memories of my cross-country skiing days. At the Porcupine Ski Runners, inside the wax shack there were advertisement posters on the walls in English, French and Finnish. But there was a big poster for SWIX - FART DE SKI and another that had "fartage" on it. Too funny.

I remember knowing all of the colors of the waxes and klister. In Timmins you use quite a bit of the "polar wax" which is SWIX's wax for the coldest temperature.

Loco101 · #**12132** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 4:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Isn't St. Hubert basically the same as Swiss Chalet?

Similar in some ways some definitely not the same. I much prefer St-Hubert and it has a much better selection of things on its menu compared to Swiss Chalet. Also nicer interiors with pretty cool bars in most locations unlike Swiss Chalet. But a Quebec chain is naturally going to be more interesting than one that caters to the rest of Canada.

Ironically, both are owned by Cara Restaurants as Cara bought St-Hubert only a year or two ago.

Loco101 · #**12133** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 4:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

It's odd how many Québécois will refer to the American new wave band The B-52s as "les Bé cinquante-deux". I've actually heard radio hosts name them this way on several occasions.

It's an extremely rare exception as the names of anglo bands are almost never frenchified in this way.

I've heard for 7-UP both "seven-up" and "sept-up" from francophones.

Je suis un homme seven up man.... (I live in a city in Ontario that has the only private francophone radio station in the province so that's how I know that song) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6UimgSI0SQ (PLAY THAT VIDEO LOL)

lio45 · #**12134** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 5:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Loco101

Similar in some ways some definitely not the same. I much prefer St-Hubert and it has a much better selection of things on its menu compared to Swiss Chalet. Also nicer interiors with pretty cool bars in most locations unlike Swiss Chalet. But a Quebec chain is naturally going to be more interesting than one that caters to the rest of Canada.

Ironically, both are owned by Cara Restaurants as Cara bought St-Hubert only a year or two ago.

Well, Swiss Chalet is definitely on my "will make sure to avoid" list if it's even shittier than St-Hubert! (Haven't ever set foot in one yet, and now it likely won't happen based on your advice.)

lio45 · #**12135** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 5:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Loco101

I've heard for 7-UP both "seven-up" and "sept-up" from francophones.

Wow, I've never ever ever ever heard "sept up". I'm curious now if the other Québécois in here have heard people say it like that? (I'm not much of a pop drinker but I've still got decades of experience around people...)

As Acajack says band names are normally not translated. On the other hand car model names always are (which is likely why an airplane model also would naturally be). So we'd say "Blink One Eighty-Two" and "Un Camaro Zed Vingt-Huit".

Loco101 · #**12136** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 5:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

No, no... I'm having a good day at work. It was more about the atmosphere on this thread.

As for BM Onctueux, well we might be seeing more of his sister soon.

Many in the media are saying that Caroline Mulroney might run for the leadership of the PC Party...Her and Doug Ford as candidates....

kwoldtimer · #**12137** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 5:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Loco101

Many in the media are saying that Caroline Mulroney might run for the leadership of the PC Party...Her and Doug Ford as candidates....

I don't think Caroline Mulroney is well enough known to have any negatives (other than her surname) with the general public. My sense is that she's a pretty mainstream Progressive Conservative. It could be that her lack of political experience will be seen as a good thing in the current atmosphere, I don't know. Candidates don't seem to be in any great hurry to announce their intentions, although I guess that understandable given the sudden opening of the position.

Loco101 · #**12138** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 5:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

The inverse of the francophone pronunciations of English chains and words are the laughable examples of anglophones butchering french and spanish names. I'm not sure which sounds grosser "Poo-tine" or "Poo-teen". I also get a kick out of people ordering "JA-LA-Pinos" peppers.

Everybody born and raised in Timmins pronounces "poutine" the correct francophone way.

I remember some of my francophone friends were going to university down South in places like London and Kitchener. More than a few times they would order a poutine and the restaurant employee would "correct" them and say "oh you mean a poo-teeen." They would then start speaking French to show who was correct.

kool maudit · #**12139** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 9:17 AM**

"Fart" in Danish means speed, so on the highway there are signs warning drivers that if they go too fast they can be caught on camera and ticketed.

These signs read "Fartkontrol".

There is also an app you can get for your phone that warns you of speed traps and the like; it is also called "Fartkontrol".

In a related note, these are also very common around Copenhagen's landmarks:

HomeInMyShoes · #**12140** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 2:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought poo-TEEN would be more the France-french pronunciation (vs poo-TIN), like fa-REEN vs the more Quebecois fa-RIN?

And the only time I've ever heard someone say JA-LA-pinos was as a joke. I'm truly empathetic if you've heard it otherwise.

That said, almost EVERY "foreign" food goes through a similar cringe-worthy anglicization process. Take perogies... It's a bit of a bastardization of Polish and Ukrainian to start (and possibly others, but these two are the most prevalent in Canada), with пиріг/pyrih/pierog singular and пироги/pyrohy/pierogi as plural. But through a bit of morphing/latinization of Ukrainian cyrillic and the polish word + pluralizing the already plural form, you get...

Perogies, a pluralization of a mixture of the already plural Ukrainian/Polish words.

(and technically, not even the standard Ukrainian word at that, but the dialectic one used by the immigrants who came in the early waves).

Cool. I did not know the singular to plural issue.