CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction, v7

[ithakas]

Originally Posted by Bombardier

^Roszak laid off his construction guy at the end of Linea due to lack of leasing on this project (their next development following Linea). Word on the street is the project will not move forward on spec and will need to have some amount of leases in hand prior to starting. That was a few months ago, maybe things have changed and they have signed some leases since. Also, perhaps anchor was not the right description, but a certain percentage of leases are needed to get this job started.

Thanks, Bombardier. Do you know if their Printers Row project is still dead?

Last I heard they weren't able to come to an agreement with the garage owner, but they still have the project on their site.

It's a great design/project, so hopefully they're just waiting for the current owner to stop holding out...

[10023]

Originally Posted by rgarri4

To me the Renelle is in such a weird tiny spot. Even in renders it feels awkwardly smooshed in there. It would be nice to leave it as green space and fill the obvious gap of a parking lot right next door.

No one would use a green space that was created there, wedged between Trump Tower’s parking ramp and a condo building driveway. And the site doesn’t get any sun, which makes it uninviting.

[harryc]

Originally Posted by 10023

No one would use a green space that was created there, wedged between Trump Tower’s parking ramp and a condo building driveway. And the site doesn’t get any sun, which makes it uninviting.

It was used by dozens of people daily during the summer, and a handful (mostly intrepid smokers) in the winter. It did get sun for a few hours each day.

[Bombardier]

Originally Posted by ithakas

Thanks, Bombardier. Do you know if their Printers Row project is still dead?

No, sorry. Have not heard anything on that parcel.

[HomrQT]

Originally Posted by harryc

It was used by dozens of people daily during the summer, and a handful (mostly intrepid smokers) in the winter. It did get sun for a few hours each day.

For the actual number of people that did those things, it's much better to put a building there.

[HomrQT]

Originally Posted by rgarri4

To me the Renelle is in such a weird tiny spot. Even in renders it feels awkwardly smooshed in there. It would be nice to leave it as green space and fill the obvious gap of a parking lot right next door.

It's almost comically small standing next to the humongous Trump Tower. I think the site was ok to put a building, but some added height would have made it less awkward.

[Kumdogmillionaire]

Originally Posted by harryc

It was used by dozens of people daily during the summer, and a handful (mostly intrepid smokers) in the winter. It did get sun for a few hours each day.

This may be the worst attempt at selling someone the idea of keeping a lot green I've ever seen

DOZENS OF PEOPLE! DOZENS!!

[r18tdi]

Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire

This may be the worst attempt at selling someone the idea of keeping a lot green I've ever seen

DOZENS OF PEOPLE! DOZENS!!

Still sounds better than Pritzker Park...

[Jibba]

Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire

This may be the worst attempt at selling someone the idea of keeping a lot green I've ever seen

DOZENS OF PEOPLE! DOZENS!!

Dozens of people for a space of that size qualifies it as highly utilized. And these spaces need to be interspersed throughout the city with enough frequency to make them convenient enough to be used as respites, eating spots, or places to simply gather one's self. It's still a good use of the space to have the building there, but a well-designed green space (in lieu of its prior form) would be far from a waste.

[Kumdogmillionaire]

Originally Posted by r18tdi

Still sounds better than Pritzker Park...

Pritzker Park doubles as a park and a homeless shelter!

[Randomguy34]

Anyone going to the presentation today for Gensler's SPECTRE (167 N. Green)? I heard this projects is going to feature pedestrian "mews" lined with shops. I'm in London right now and have found them to be a wonderful addition to the urban fabric, but I cannot attend since I am not in the states at the moment. More info on the project: https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/11/21/16684808/fulton-market-office-tower-development

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by Randomguy34

Anyone going to the presentation today for Gensler's SPECTRE (167 N. Green)? I heard this projects is going to feature pedestrian "mews" lined with shops. I'm in London right now and have found them to be a wonderful addition to the urban fabric, but I cannot attend since I am not in the states at the moment. More info on the project: https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/11/21/16684808/fulton-market-office-tower-development

An alley lined with shops? Like London?

10023 will have an orgasm!

I can see there being a demand for this, given how hot Randolph St is right now

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Building permits issued for new construction of the 20 story office tower at 145 S Wells (Wells & about Adams). Formerly a parking garage.

Source: Curbed/Thomas Roszak Architecture

Is all this West Loop office construction cannabalizing projects like this?

I know that it has a permit and there is debate whether it will get started, but the prospect of a small, centrally located office building in the Loop should not even be a matter of debate had the “hot” area not shifted elsewhere.

[kolchak]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Is all this West Loop office construction cannabalizing projects like this?

I know that it has a permit and there is debate whether it will get started, but the prospect of a small, centrally located office building in the Loop should not even be a matter of debate had the “hot” area not shifted elsewhere.

Interesting point. If that site weren't so close to Union Station would it even get built at all right now?

[BVictor1]

There was hardly any pushback regarding this project at the WLCO community meeting. One dude was basically mad his property was in a landmark district, said it was 'forced upon them. I think he's pissed he couldn't cash out like non-landmark areas are doing.


Green Street view through the 'mews' toward Halsted
Halsted Street looking west through the mews toward Green









-NOTES


167 Green/170 Halsted

PD 1359

Now double the size the site was before

Mews?? public/private space on private property that will connect Green and Halsted (Arcade like concept)

5 retail spaces

Alley will stay intact, though vacated

2 floors of parking

parking spaces when from 55 to 129 (access from Lake)

4-15 consistent floors of office

setback on 16 with private terrace

rooftop amenity for office

brick and metal base with glass and steel above

170 address for Halsted

Neighborhood opportunity fund contribution was going to be $2.562 million and now it’ll be $5.55 million

17 story building

275’

what’s the square footage? net 575,000/gross 725,000

whats the leed certification? silver

what are the property taxes projected? $3-4 million annually

[Stunnies23]

167 N Green seems like a really unique project. Approve it and build it already!

[the urban politician]

Too bad for the increase in parking, but all in all I like it a lot

[KWillChicago]

I like it. Is it just me or is that north and south facade kind of a resemblance of vistas honeycomb? But if this gets the go maybe we might start seeing more towers on the west side of Halsted. Possibly making a halsted canyon next to a future expressway canyon?

[Jibba]

That's a shame that it's now a corporate Gensler toss-off. It (unconvincingly) co-opts the local aesthetic du jour and is oppressive in its presence (even in a rendering). I was hoping for something that touched down a little more delicately...

[r18tdi]

Originally Posted by Jibba

I was hoping for something that touched down a little more delicately...

Tower is kinda blobby but I like the base. It's got a sort of private/civic pedestrian arcade thing cutting through it.