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Old Posted Nov 24, 2017, 11:21 PM
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I am pretty sure we've had this WCE talk multiples times and the conclusion is that it'll remain a single directional commute service. Any expansion is extremely unlikely, if not impossible due to various limitations.

Our rail network is designed for freight.If you want decent passenger rail service you will have to build a new network from scratch.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2017, 11:25 PM
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Which would require building new track in spaces that other people have already shown don't exist. While it's easier than laying all new track the whole way, it's still infeasible.

These sorts of things are best taken to the transit fantasies thread anyhow because upgrading the WCE's service to have new rail lines or sidings for hourly service definitely fall in the fantasy category.
You mentioned WCE having one track.

Having one track, and having one track with passing stations are hardly different. They're both entirely hypothetical now. WCE has no track right currently, and just fits in whenever CP lets them in. In either case, you'd be talking about a new track.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2017, 11:30 PM
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I always thought that with the Evergreen Line in place the WCE could continue the few morning and evening uni-directional trains to downtown and expand to being bi-directional throughout the day east of Coquitlam Station (or if the spur is extended to Port Coquitlam have the WCE become bi-directional through the day form there).
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2017, 11:56 PM
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I always thought that with the Evergreen Line in place the WCE could continue the few morning and evening uni-directional trains to downtown and expand to being bi-directional throughout the day east of Coquitlam Station (or if the spur is extended to Port Coquitlam have the WCE become bi-directional through the day form there).
I think that's the only solution that makes sense at this point. There's not enough demand to justify the high cost of adding another track from Coquitlam into Downtown.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2017, 5:14 AM
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Bi-directional service with passing stations are a thing. You just need precise scheduling and signalling.

You should watch some videos of how the Arbutus Streetcar used to work. They had a baton/flag that they passed between cars to confirm that the track was empty.

The WCE doesn't even use a very long train, so the passing stations would be relatively short sidings.
The interurban service alongside Arbutus was double tracked. You're thinking of Oak Street, which was single tracked and utilized a baton. https://youtu.be/-kbyBbJPi_g
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2017, 5:33 PM
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Skytrain controls from The Buzzer Blog

     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2017, 5:13 PM
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Skytrain controls from The Buzzer Blog

One of those buttons is a horn! Once I was sitting at the front seat when a SkyTrain attendant asked if I could move so he could show a four-year old kid the controls. When we came into one of the stations, he got the kid to press the horn button so we were like a proper train coming into the station. It was pretty awesome!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2017, 10:21 PM
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Does it sound any better than the wimpy MK I horn?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2017, 7:05 PM
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Does it sound any better than the wimpy MK I horn?
It's no diesel locomotive engine horn, that's for sure. I guess you could call it wimpy? I don't know what the MkI horn sounds like so I can't compare.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2017, 1:04 AM
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Well, that can be arranged.

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Old Posted Nov 28, 2017, 4:56 AM
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Well, that can be arranged.

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that's it? eek. its a good thing they don't use them more. haha
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2017, 9:09 AM
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Well, that can be arranged.
Hahahaha even the people in the video are mocking it *beep beep*
     
     
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that's it? eek. its a good thing they don't use them more. haha
What is it that they don't use anymore? The horn? The Mk Is are most definitely still in service.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2017, 5:50 PM
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Well, that can be arranged.
Haha yeah the horn still sounds like that. They should totally sound them whenever they come into a station.
     
     
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What is it that they don't use anymore? The horn? The Mk Is are most definitely still in service.
yes the horn
     
     
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This is pretty shocking, in many ways.

On a Vancouver train full of people, just one came to teen's help in racist attack

...Tuesday morning, Fadel took to Facebook to give her account of what happened.

She had just boarded the Canada Line at Waterfront Station when a man suddenly got up and began screaming insults and threats at her. She says the man said he was going to kill “all Muslims” and then “raised his hand” and made death threats toward her.

“I wanted to film him but I was afraid he was going to hit me,” she wrote. “He was using horrific words as he was aggressively making actions when he tried to grab my head and shove it to his crotch.”

Fadel said as other passengers sat or stood passively, “out of nowhere,” the man hit her.

“And everyone watched as he did so. Everyone stayed seated and did not utter a word, but one man,” she continued. “One guy, just like me on his way home from work, got up and pushed the guy away and stayed in front of me until the man got off at Vancouver City Centre.”...


http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/...tack-monday-evening-on-board-canada-line
     
     
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That 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵, what a gross human being.

Ironically I just watched a video two days ago about this phenomenon of bystanders. You are actually far more likely to get help from a stranger if there are very few bystanders. The more people around, the less likely someone will come to your aid. Essentially everyone assumes that someone else will help.
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This is what the police have stated to do. do not engage so you won't get injured or killed and to call 9-1-1 immediately. Yellow strip is your friend in Skytrain and Canada line.
     
     
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Yellow strip is your friend in Skytrain and Canada line.
Why the differentiation?
     
     
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Why the differentiation?
...because some people can't get over the technology difference
     
     
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