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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 1:22 AM
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Geez, why does Philly Mag sell Philly short on this? I just get the feeling it some liberal douche that doesn't understand the overall benefits/positives outweigh the alleged negatives.
The whole article is 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵, it offers no real solutions to the issues it claims bringing 50k high paying jobs won't help solve. I started writing a response until I asked myself "why?" There is no trying to reason with somebody like this.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 1:46 AM
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Yeah, was waiting for this one from Philly Mag.

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/10/19/amazon-hq2-philadelphia-costs/
These opinion pieces baffle me.

If Philly gets Amazon, will it be all sunshine and roses...certainly not. There will be some growing pains and there will very well be affordability concerns.

But this mindset is like not taking a promotion because of being scared of the responsibility that comes with it.

We can't just hit pause on the world to tackle our perennial problems while we see the Amazon's of the world and other HQ's go to other cities. Only to wonder 5-10 years later why Philly continues to lag behind other cities in job growth and attracting companies from outside the region.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 1:51 AM
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This city used to hold over 2 million people... affordability here will be fine for a long time. May not be the neighborhood you want, but it'll be NOTHING like NYC/SF/etc. for a long long long time, even with Amazon. Honestly affordability here should be the least of anyone's concerns.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 2:18 AM
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Philadelphia Amazon HQ2 Official Bid Website

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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 2:39 AM
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Alright. Looking' good. Now all we gotta do is play the waiting game.

The more I think about it, I really think our biggest competitor is Atlanta. Much like a sports season, I've noticed there's always been "that one city that's gonna beat us" on this forum, and in articles in general. Early on, it was Chicago. Later on, it was Boston. Toronto, Austin, and now Atlanta have all filled this role. All of the recent articles have placed Austin, Atlanta, and Philly as the top three. I don't think Austin really has that big a chance. I personally believe that it's down to Philadelphia and Atlanta.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 2:52 AM
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Alright. Looking' good. Now all we gotta do is play the waiting game.

The more I think about it, I really think our biggest competitor is Atlanta. Much like a sports season, I've noticed there's always been "that one city that's gonna beat us" on this forum, and in articles in general. Early on, it was Chicago. Later on, it was Boston. Toronto, Austin, and now Atlanta have all filled this role. All of the recent articles have placed Austin, Atlanta, and Philly as the top three. I don't think Austin really has that big a chance. I personally believe that it's down to Philadelphia and Atlanta.
This is where I am as well tbh. I also think they'll consider other locations in Texas strongly. I also think a more mid-sized city like Nashville or St. Louis will get attention.

That said, all I can say is I know this has been the #1 priority for a lot of important people in the city for a few weeks, and we've given it the best shot we can. So if we don't get it, it hasn't been because we didn't try hard enough.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 3:03 AM
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This city used to hold over 2 million people... affordability here will be fine for a long time. May not be the neighborhood you want, but it'll be NOTHING like NYC/SF/etc. for a long long long time, even with Amazon. Honestly affordability here should be the least of anyone's concerns.
It takes WAY more units to have the same population today as you had in 1950. Households average much smaller today.

University City seems like an excellent idea for Amazon. Two of the top criteria in my mind are (a) an area that already plans that much development because there's no way in hell they'll pick someplace where that hasn't been figured out already, and (b) an area that will aid in global recruitment. University City does very well with both, as well as transit. I also think it'll be a city bigger than Seattle, which is maybe 2/3 Philly's size.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 11:14 AM
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More than anything, what needs to come out of this process is these cities simply forging ahead with these frameworks and attracting whatever other investors/firms might be interested: Take those promised tax abatements/subsidies, find partners, and simply do it in phases. No need to wait for AMZHQ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 12:16 PM
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So did we win Amazon yet?
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 12:23 PM
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These opinion pieces baffle me.

If Philly gets Amazon, will it be all sunshine and roses...certainly not. There will be some growing pains and there will very well be affordability concerns.

But this mindset is like not taking a promotion because of being scared of the responsibility that comes with it.

We can't just hit pause on the world to tackle our perennial problems while we see the Amazon's of the world and other HQ's go to other cities. Only to wonder 5-10 years later why Philly continues to lag behind other cities in job growth and attracting companies from outside the region.
Have you ever seen the monthly editorials by the Philly Mag chairman Lipson? He is about as far from a liberal as you a can get and he trashes Philly every month (when he's not trashing American society in general and blaming it on liberals). He is about as far from a Philly cheerleader as one can be. His basic premise is that if you say anything positive about the city you are naive and in denial and are stopping reform from taking place. So the only position to take is one of relentless criticism and disdain for almost everything and every institution that currently exists.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 12:45 PM
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So did we win Amazon yet?
Not going to lie, I would love it if Amazon came out and publicly announced that all those dinky proposals were eliminated, and "what were you thinking?" was their proclamation while they shred Delaware County, and nowhere USA bids.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 1:34 PM
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Love, love, love that this quote from this CEO is on the main page.
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"Philly is a city that's got an x-factor right now that very few cities can claim. We've got momentum. We've got swagger. Look across the skyline any day of the week. You'll see this city is exploding. And that swagger draws people."
Apu Gupta,
CEO and Co-Founder, Curalate
If you are not familiar with the company or the CEO...look them up
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 2:47 PM
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Sorry to just add more posts like this, but the more I think about it, the more mad I'll be if Amazon doesn't come here. We desperately need this for so many reasons.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 3:25 PM
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Moved the Camden HQ2 posts to the Metro thread (cos it's metro news, duh)
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 4:37 PM
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Post Brothers finishes $100M renovation at Presidential City

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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 4:39 PM
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Love, love, love that this quote from this CEO is on the main page.

If you are not familiar with the company or the CEO...look them up
I did... I'm not sure how they differentiate themselves from the pack. Plus they're private - at least I couldn't find their ticket symbol.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2017, 5:21 PM
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A look at the 10 sites on Chicago’s official bid for Amazon
From the Loop to the suburbs, Chicago’s formal submission offers the tech giant a wide variety of options for its future HQ.

BY JAY KOZIARZ AN HOUR AGO



........... Ugh-oh .......
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2017, 5:23 PM
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A look at the 10 sites on Chicago’s official bid for Amazon
From the Loop to the suburbs, Chicago’s formal submission offers the tech giant a wide variety of options for its future HQ.

BY JAY KOZIARZ AN HOUR AGO



........... Ugh-oh .......
Chicago is:
1. Dying
2. Hemorrhaging population
3. Crime-ridden (more than we are)

While I think that they are a contender, I don't think that we should be breaking a sweat yet.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2017, 5:30 PM
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Chicago is:
1. Dying
2. Hemorrhaging population
3. Crime-ridden (more than we are)

While I think that they are a contender, I don't think that we should be breaking a sweat yet.



........... Maybe not ..... maybe ....... Then I thought DC would be the pick because of the CEO's property holdings , but then
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