Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[ucsbgaucho]

Originally Posted by Comrade

Despite the Olympics being extremely commercialized with product endorsements, the Games have actually taken on a policy against corporate-sponsoring of the Games. Because of this, any arena or stadium named after a corporation will be called something generic. In 2002, the Delta Center was renamed Salt Lake Ice Center and referred to as such by the media and Games.

So, Amazon would get little out of Salt Lake hosting the games.

Actually the games are incredibly commercialized, as long as you're an official US Olympic partner sponsor. Same thing happens during the NCAA Tournaments. When I worked in college athletics we would have to cover up all the court signage/logos and all other corporate signage that wasn't approved by the NCAA whenever our school hosted an NCAA tournament event for all sports. The Olympics sell corporate sponsorships for everything, but they don't like other companies getting free airtime or free endorsements so they only allow the official sponsors during that time.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by Always Sunny in SLC

Did Priskos own this property?

Although, Priskos didn’t own the property, he was Bernolfo’s broker and would sometimes make public statements on Bernolfo’s behalf.

[EPdesign]

Originally Posted by delts145

Thanks Isaac for keeping tabs on this Held family project for us. It has a definite Los Angeles/So Cal. feel to it. I get this impression of a mix of a groovy 60's retro vibe too. The base kind of makes me feel like I'm looking at the art board of a Doris Day, James Garner movie. Being conceptual, I wonder how much change will be made to this rendering before the final design. This and Patrinely will be a cool project for the forum to follow. Hopefully, Richie will be in the mix also around the same time. Very excited that they're making it heavily mixed-use. That being the case I would have liked to have seen it go taller, but I'm not complaining.

Conceptual rendering of the first few floors of the proposed 370 Millennium Tower.
The developers are still working on the building's final design. Image courtesy Held Properties.


Conceptual rendering of the proposed 370 Millennium Tower. The developers are still working on the building’s final design.
Image courtesy Held Properties

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Sweet. They finally put out the info on this. I was so excited when our company was reached out for a bid one services once it’s completed.

[San Diego-Honolulu]

Came across this article in the Salt Lake City Deseret News. Be careful what you wish for. Again, I still think the Amazon second headquarters are going to Atlanta.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...m-seattle.html

[asies1981]

Post on two townhome proposed townhome projects.

[Ironweed]

Originally Posted by Stenar

Otto Mileti owned the Zephyr Club, but leased the building from Zion’s Bank. When his lease expired, Zion’s Bank increased his rent considerably. Mileti decided to buy the building from Zion’s for $1 million, but the deal fell through, and the building has sat empty for the past 14 years.

“...when club owner Otto Mileti's lease was up and he decided to buy The Zephyr for $1 million. But Zions Bank said another buyer was interested and put the property up for auction.
The successful bidder, at $1. 6 million, was David Bernolfo, a descendant and heir of Utah Gov. Simon Bamberger, a wealthy railroad and mining investor.” —SL Tribune

Bernolfo has wanted to demolish the building for a parking lot ever since he bought it, but the city won’t let him.

Sounds like there are some real jackaroons who own property in the city.

[Utah_Dave]

I know this is lame and a little desperate, but looking closer at the number of floors in the new proposed high rise. The top level will include 1-2 stories of glass to screen the equipment on top of the building and making the visual impact of a 28-29 story building. I know this isn't a new design element in salt lake but I'll take anything I can for more height!

I need a hobby!

[ctobsl]

Originally Posted by Utah_Dave

I need a hobby!

This site is a hobby...

[Comrade]

Here is a photo of what Regent Street used to look like at 200 South:

[airhero]

According to Deseret News, Utah submitted its Amazon proposal yesterday. Says nothing about the chosen site.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...-concerns.html

According to other articles, Utah will pitch outdoor recreation and the multilingual population of Utah as selling points, but they're mostly staying pretty quiet about the details of the proposal.

[airhero]

I really wish we could see the proposal, but at the same time, I'm glad Utah has been fairly mum about the whole thing. Many cities going about with their heads on fire about their HQ2 bids come off as at best unprofessional and at worst horribly grating.

It looks like several cities are pitching multiple sites in their bids. If Utah has done the same, I'm certain among the selected sites is the Draper prison site and a site in or close to downtown.

I don't think pitching Utah's population as multilingual is entirely accurate. I think many Mormons have a proficiency in another language, but I wouldn't say they are fluent, since most would struggle in conversations that go beyond gospel and basic small talk.

[Always Sunny in SLC]

Originally Posted by airhero

I really wish we could see the proposal, but at the same time, I'm glad Utah has been fairly mum about the whole thing. Many cities going about with their heads on fire about their HQ2 bids come off as at best unprofessional and at worst horribly grating.

It looks like several cities are pitching multiple sites in their bids. If Utah has done the same, I'm certain among the selected sites is the Draper prison site and a site in or close to downtown.

I don't think pitching Utah's population as multilingual is entirely accurate. I think many Mormons have a proficiency in another language, but I wouldn't say they are fluent, since most would struggle in conversations that go beyond gospel and basic small talk.

I am not sure this is accurate. I will speak with some of my Mormon friends who went to overseas missions, but my impression is they came back with decently broad skills. Regardless, while I don't speak a second language, I can imagine that once you are competent in sentence structure and conjugating verbs it is just a matter of expanding your vocabulary.

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by airhero

According to Deseret News, Utah submitted its Amazon proposal yesterday. Says nothing about the chosen site.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...-concerns.html

According to other articles, Utah will pitch outdoor recreation and the multilingual population of Utah as selling points, but they're mostly staying pretty quiet about the details of the proposal.

I heard that they were pitching the prison site. I checked with a friend if they considered the Fleet Block or downtown area, and they are not. My understanding is that the RFP asked for an undeveloped site, aka exurbs.

[delts145]

So, if they choose the prison site do you think Frank Gehry will design the skyline? J/K...For those of you who are familiar with a few years back on this forum, you will know what I'm referring to. Ha, it's a long shot, but maybe we'd get the Gehry style skyline after all. While we would all like to see it Downtown, the prison site does seem inevitable, if the Wasatch were to actually get the nod. I do think that Atlanta is probably the safer bet.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by Always Sunny in SLC

I am not sure this is accurate. I will speak with some of my Mormon friends who went to overseas missions, but my impression is they came back with decently broad skills. Regardless, while I don't speak a second language, I can imagine that once you are competent in sentence structure and conjugating verbs it is just a matter of expanding your vocabulary.

Much of what your saying is true, although a few years absence can leave one a little rusty. However, my own personal experience with the Italian language, and that of members of my family with Italian, Japanese, and German, their skills were all reclaimed very quickly, once re-immersed back into the culture and or living it on a regular basis.

[AllOutOfBubbleGum]

Originally Posted by Always Sunny in SLC

I am not sure this is accurate. I will speak with some of my Mormon friends who went to overseas missions, but my impression is they came back with decently broad skills. Regardless, while I don't speak a second language, I can imagine that once you are competent in sentence structure and conjugating verbs it is just a matter of expanding your vocabulary.

As delts says. You forget some of it within a year or two but once you are put back into a situation of speaking the language all the time, it comes back quick.
After 7 years of not speaking my language, I was hosting some people from that country for a few weeks. I was fluent within days having them around me, it was surprising.

But look at it this way, even if missionaries forget a little of the language its still more exposure to a second language then most of the country will ever get. That's something the state can hang a hat on.

[airhero]

Originally Posted by Always Sunny in SLC

I am not sure this is accurate. I will speak with some of my Mormon friends who went to overseas missions, but my impression is they came back with decently broad skills. Regardless, while I don't speak a second language, I can imagine that once you are competent in sentence structure and conjugating verbs it is just a matter of expanding your vocabulary.

I don't know how to gauge how well the average returned missionary speaks. The phrases "multilingual" and "bilingual" imply fluency. My impression is a lot of missionaries who were abroad have fluency in general conversation and gospel-related subjects, but they do not in the kinds of technical fields in which they would be employed if working for a tech company like Amazon, mostly because of their lack of vocabulary. But I suppose the proficiency is an advantage.

Originally Posted by Orlando

I heard that they were pitching the prison site. I checked with a friend if they considered the Fleet Block or downtown area, and they are not. My understanding is that the RFP asked for an undeveloped site, aka exurbs.

Reading through the RFP Amazon definitely seemed open to either an urban or suburban site. It specifically states it could be an urban campus. But an exurb seems off the table. They want to be close to the urban center and an international airport and also want onsite transit. That being said, I wouldn't classify Draper as an exurb.

The state does own 600 acres of contiguous greenfield in Draper, minus the land the prison is on, but that is only a small portion of the 600+ acres and it will be torn down in the next few years.

[airhero]

Originally Posted by delts145

So, if they choose the prison site do you think Frank Gehry will design the skyline? J/K...For those of you who are familiar with a few years back on this forum, you will know what I'm referring to. Ha, it's a long shot, but maybe we'd get the Gehry style skyline after all. While we would all like to see it Downtown, the prison site does seem inevitable, if the Wasatch were to actually get the nod. I do think that Atlanta is probably the safer bet.

Haha those were the days. Back when City Creek was proposed and the Frank Gehry project was in the news. But looking back at the Gehry project, I'm glad it died lol.

Perhaps we will get this ambitious vision Draper put forth a few years ago after all:


Deseret News

But I doubt it!

[Makid]

Originally Posted by airhero

Haha those were the days. Back when City Creek was proposed and the Frank Gehry project was in the news. But looking back at the Gehry project, I'm glad it died lol.

Perhaps we will get this ambitious vision Draper put forth a few years ago after all:


Deseret News

But I doubt it!

While it would be interesting, the Amazon HQ2 would take up more space than what is depicted.

It wouldn't work for Amazon anyway as there isn't any mass transit visible. I also don't think a southern expansion of Trax will go through the location for at least 20 years unless the State builds it sooner.

Maybe the State will want to build a Trax Tech expansion. Blue line to Lehi/Orem and Red line through the Old Prison site to create a large loop. Costs would be between $900 Million and $1.5 Billion depending on how far the Blue line is extended as well as the Red line extensions final alignment.

[asies1981]

Renderings of the Pickle Building proposal. If you guys are interested voting runs until October 31.