O-Train Line 2 [Stage 1 | Bayview to Greenboro] | In Service

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I think there's a famous city across the pond where they might disagree with that statement. Having ridden double deckers here fairly frequently they actually don't dwell as long as you think, as long as people understand double decker etiquette (move downstairs a stop ahead). Newbies though hold up the process. Now where I live, I take the 1..er...6 frequently and really wish they'd run double deckers on weekdays and not just weekends. I usually get an artic on the way into work which is also okay, but on the way home it's always a packed to the gills 40 footer.

This is something I always noticed in Ottawa.. it seems that a lot of routes run with artics in the morning but 40-footers in the afternoon. What gives? Where do all those artics from the morning go?

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

London's double deckers are better designed for flow.. they have multiple stairs going up. Furthermore Europeans in general are much better than Canadians at being efficient users, so they get to/from their seats a lot faster.

One other difference between London and Ottawa is that Londoners have decades of experience using consistently using DD buses. Here they are still quite new and with them only sporadically being used, many haven't used them frequently.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by roger1818

One other difference between London and Ottawa is that Londoners have decades of experience using consistently using DD buses. Here they are still quite new and with them only sporadically being used, many haven't used them frequently.

Dear Lord, in Ottawa, people can't even figure out how to get rear doors to open, despite every single one of them being furnished with instructions in English, French, and non-linguistic pictorial glyphs.

[kmcamp]

I wonder what happened to the fare gate project... seems to have stalled and the website now just says "in the coming months" and not this summer as had been said before.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I wonder what happened to the fare gate project... seems to have stalled and the website now just says "in the coming months" and not this summer as had been said before.

Everything has come to a total halt at Greenboro. They started building a ticket vending booth just outside Greenboro station and it just suddenly stopped. It is sitting there as a partially built shell.

[SkeggsEggs]

Maybe there are issues making the Carleton bus pass a smart pass?

Edit: Nevermind! Picked up my upass and it's the new one you can tap.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Dear Lord, in Ottawa, people can't even figure out how to get rear doors to open, despite every single one of them being furnished with instructions in English, French, and non-linguistic pictorial glyphs.

What I don't understand is why Ottawa can't just be like a normal city with the driver opening the doors. Instead lots of buses rely on those push things which don't work half the time and result in you having to yell to ask the driver to open the door anyway...

[McC]

I ride the bus less and less these days, but I have literally never once seen that happen, where the door wouldn't open when the mechanism was triggered once the green light was on. I *have* had to call to the driver to unlock the doors at lower-volume stops to get that green light, though. And which "normal cities" have drivers opening the rear doors at all stops on all routes? I've never seen that in the cities where I have the most experience with the bus: Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, Victoria, Paris, and New York.

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

Everything has come to a total halt at Greenboro. They started building a ticket vending booth just outside Greenboro station and it just suddenly stopped. It is sitting there as a partially built shell.

I think the shell is actually the finished product. I think this was all done on the cheap, since they'll likely rebuild everything again in 2 years with phase 2.

As for the faregates, I read in Toronto the same gates could be easily opened without paying simply by swiping an umbrella through the open space between the two doors, maybe they held off while the manufacturer provides a fix?

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Beedok

What I don't understand is why Ottawa can't just be like a normal city with the driver opening the doors. Instead lots of buses rely on those push things which don't work half the time and result in you having to yell to ask the driver to open the door anyway...

They work damn near 100% of the time if you read and assimilate the instructions, which are simple, multilingual, and for which there are, what, all of four variants (artic, DD, diesel 40-footer, hybrid 40-footer). Even those variants pretty well all boil down to the same thing: wait for the green light to come on, then touch the yellow object closest to the door itself.

And why is it the ABSOLUTE WORST at figuring it out are university students?

Leave it to the driver? Oh no, no, no no no, oh god no no no no no.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I think the shell is actually the finished product. I think this was all done on the cheap, since they'll likely rebuild everything again in 2 years with phase 2.

As for the faregates, I read in Toronto the same gates could be easily opened without paying simply by swiping an umbrella through the open space between the two doors, maybe they held off while the manufacturer provides a fix?

Going by memory from last week, I don't think the structure is even enclosed yet, just a frame. I will be going by there this evening.

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

Going by memory from last week, I don't think the structure is even enclosed yet, just a frame. I will be going by there this evening.

I thought it was unfinished too, but noticed a plexiglass roof and lighting, so I was guessing that's all she wrote. I assume the machines themselves are fairly weather proof so the only point of the structure is lighting and a bit of rain protection while you're standing there

[CanadaGoose]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I wonder what happened to the fare gate project... seems to have stalled and the website now just says "in the coming months" and not this summer as had been said before.

There was a delay due to Algonquin U Passes, from what I heard. Last week of August and into September are the fare gate installations.

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by CyrusKafaiwu

There was a delay due to Algonquin U Passes, from what I heard. Last week of August and into September are the fare gate installations.

I hope they'll delay closing them on a bit then... nothing ever works right from the get go generally and corresponding the first day of gates with the start of the school year sounds like a recipe for disaster.

[Catenary]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I hope they'll delay closing them on a bit then... nothing ever works right from the get go generally and corresponding the first day of gates with the start of the school year sounds like a recipe for disaster.

I would expect the fare gates to be closed after the TVMs have been installed and tested.

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by Catenary

I would expect the fare gates to be closed after the TVMs have been installed and tested.

I guess the installation has started now:

Carling Aug. 14–15, from 5 am to 5 pm
Confederation Aug. 16–17, from 5 am to 5 pm
Carleton West end of the station: Aug. 21–22, from 5 am to 5 pm
East end of the station: Aug. 23–24, from 5 am to 5 pm
Greenboro Aug. 27–28, from midnight to 5 am

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I guess the installation has started now:

Carling Aug. 14–15, from 5 am to 5 pm
Confederation Aug. 16–17, from 5 am to 5 pm
Carleton West end of the station: Aug. 21–22, from 5 am to 5 pm
East end of the station: Aug. 23–24, from 5 am to 5 pm
Greenboro Aug. 27–28, from midnight to 5 am

I can now say I've seen the gates with my own eyes being put in at Carling station (though it was from the train, so didn't get a close up look)

[TransitZilla]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I guess the installation has started now:

Carling Aug. 14–15, from 5 am to 5 pm
Confederation Aug. 16–17, from 5 am to 5 pm
Carleton West end of the station: Aug. 21–22, from 5 am to 5 pm
East end of the station: Aug. 23–24, from 5 am to 5 pm
Greenboro Aug. 27–28, from midnight to 5 am

Went by Confederation around noon... pedestrian detour signage is up but no work had started.

[PHrenetic]

Good Day....
posted on OC-Transpo website today:
http://www.octranspo.com/about-octranspo/news#news-198698

Quote:
Installation of new fare equipment at O-Train Trillium Line stations
Starting tonight (Aug. 16) and until the end of the month, we will be completing fare equipment installation at O-Train Trillium Line stations, which will cause short-term pedestrian detours. Please follow all signage at the stations. On Aug. 28 and 29, overnight bus service detours will be in place to accommodate the work at Greenboro Station.
You should continue to tap at the existing Presto readers or use the existing ticket machines until the new equipment is activated for use later this year.
The new fare gates and ticket machines will be fully accessible and easy to use. This is the same fare equipment that customers will use on the O-Train Confederation Line in 2018.
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[Admiral Nelson]

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