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[TK2001]

The reason why they aren't moving forward yet is because there is hairline fractures everywhere in the steel, as told by a worker

[Knight Hospitaller]

Originally Posted by TK2001

The reason why they aren't moving forward yet is because there is hairline fractures everywhere in the steel, as told by a worker

Because they built it crooked.

[iheartphilly]

urban myth (legend)?

[jjv007]

That view from across the river in NJ is one of my favorites. Great pics Summers.

[Raymond LuxuryYacht]

Originally Posted by TK2001

The reason why they aren't moving forward yet is because there is hairline fractures everywhere in the steel, as told by a worker

So another unsubstantiated rumor...reminds me of the "core out plumb" deal a while back.

[TK2001]

Originally Posted by Raymond LuxuryYacht

So another unsubstantiated rumor...reminds me of the "core out plumb" deal a while back.

Not a rumor, the truth. I'm friends with a plumber who's working on the building and she told me that. She also told me the core is leaning 5 inches to the east due to that red crane and how tall the crane was over the steel (over 20 floors) and the steel is leaning to the north by 1.5 inches.

[Gonzo the Great]

Originally Posted by TK2001

Not a rumor, the truth. I'm friends with a plumber who's working on the building and she told me that. She also told me the core is leaning 5 inches to the east due to that red crane and how tall the crane was over the steel (over 20 floors) and the steel is leaning to the north by 1.5 inches.

Yeah , and my friend said your friend is reading his construction plumb laser , up side down .......

[gw04]

I believe 5" and 1.5" out of plumb are well within field construction tolerances. There are shorter buildings in the country that are further out of plumb, and there is a general expectation that some buildings will shift over time due to the nature of the ground they sit on.

Regarding the hairline fractures, does that mean in the new steel that would be used for the remaining portion of the lantern?

[Gonzo the Great]

[QUOTE=gw04;7884532]I believe 5" and 1.5" out of plumb are well within field construction tolerances. There are shorter buildings in the country that are further out of plumb, and there is a general expectation that some buildings will shift over time due to the nature of the ground they sit on.



Ok , I am not familiar with " field construction tolerances " or if the shorter buildings you refer to have all been built in the last 40/50
years . With regard to the nature of the ground they sit on ...... yep , the Greeks knew that when they built the Parthenon . I find it hard
to believe , engineers can put a mans 🞵🞵🞵 in the Sea off Tranquility , 295,000 miles away and can't keep a 900 ft. tall skyscraper at plumb .
So , for better or worse , if I'm footing the bill for this construction site , the mother fucker had better be straight ......

[Marcos]

[QUOTE=Gonzo the Great;7884564]

Originally Posted by gw04

I believe 5" and 1.5" out of plumb are well within field construction tolerances. There are shorter buildings in the country that are further out of plumb, and there is a general expectation that some buildings will shift over time due to the nature of the ground they sit on.



Ok , I am not familiar with " field construction tolerances " or if the shorter buildings you refer to have all been built in the last 40/50
years . With regard to the nature of the ground they sit on ...... yep , the Greeks knew that when they built the Parthenon . I find it hard
to believe , engineers can put a mans 🞵🞵🞵 in the Sea off Tranquility , 295,000 miles away and can't keep a 900 ft. tall skyscraper at plumb .
So , for better or worse , if I'm footing the bill for this construction site , the mother fucker had better be straight ......

I'll go ahead & speculate that there ain't a damn thing wrong (wronger than 'normal' anyway) with any part of this structure & it's all a bunch of happy horseshit, though I would like to know whey they appear to be so far off the schedule that was floated on page 297. The strike would only account for about a week but they seem to be more than a month-ish off...

[gw04]

[QUOTE=Gonzo the Great;7884564]

Originally Posted by gw04

I believe 5" and 1.5" out of plumb are well within field construction tolerances. There are shorter buildings in the country that are further out of plumb, and there is a general expectation that some buildings will shift over time due to the nature of the ground they sit on.



Ok , I am not familiar with " field construction tolerances " or if the shorter buildings you refer to have all been built in the last 40/50
years . With regard to the nature of the ground they sit on ...... yep , the Greeks knew that when they built the Parthenon . I find it hard
to believe , engineers can put a mans 🞵🞵🞵 in the Sea off Tranquility , 295,000 miles away and can't keep a 900 ft. tall skyscraper at plumb .
So , for better or worse , if I'm footing the bill for this construction site , the mother fucker had better be straight ......

For a recent public specification on steel construction, with respect to the North side being 1.5" off at the top, see American Institute of Steel Construction's site.

https://www.aisc.org/globalassets/aisc/p...for-steel-buildings-and-bridges-2010.pdf

For an exterior individual column shipping piece, the displacement of
member working points from the established column line in the first 20
stories shall be equal to or less than 1 in. [25 mm] toward and 2 in. [50 mm]
away from the building line. Above this level, an increase in the
displacement of z in. [2 mm] is permitted for each additional story up to a
maximum displacement of 2 in. [50 mm] toward and 3 in. [75 mm] away
from the building line

[iheartphilly]

Originally Posted by Gonzo the Great

Yeah , and my friend said your friend is reading his construction plumb laser , up side down .......

Coming from the plumber...LOL. That's a doozy!

[iheartphilly]

[QUOTE=Gonzo the Great;7884564]

Originally Posted by gw04

I believe 5" and 1.5" out of plumb are well within field construction tolerances. There are shorter buildings in the country that are further out of plumb, and there is a general expectation that some buildings will shift over time due to the nature of the ground they sit on.



Ok , I am not familiar with " field construction tolerances " or if the shorter buildings you refer to have all been built in the last 40/50
years . With regard to the nature of the ground they sit on ...... yep , the Greeks knew that when they built the Parthenon . I find it hard
to believe , engineers can put a mans 🞵🞵🞵 in the Sea off Tranquility , 295,000 miles away and can't keep a 900 ft. tall skyscraper at plumb .
So , for better or worse , if I'm footing the bill for this construction site , the mother fucker had better be straight ......

People use to dig and blast holes in the mountains (no hole boring machine like nowadays) to build a straight road or for straight train tracks to run through without all the technology we have to day and they were well within 1-3 inches off when they connected from doing work at the opposite ends of the mountain. SMH if CTC is off.

[TK2001]

Originally Posted by iheartphilly

Coming from the plumber...LOL. That's a doozy!

She heard this from Ironworkers. She says "They might have to take the first [section of the cooling towers] out. This job is a disaster. Driscoll is a mess. Awful general contractor. They run around with their asses lit on fire all the time"

[Plokoon11]

Not good news, nothing but set backs it seems.

[Jawnadelphia]

[Raymond LuxuryYacht]

Originally Posted by TK2001

Not a rumor, the truth. I'm friends with a plumber who's working on the building and she told me that. She also told me the core is leaning 5 inches to the east due to that red crane and how tall the crane was over the steel (over 20 floors) and the steel is leaning to the north by 1.5 inches.

The problem is that it is from a friend, so it's all hearsay. I'm not saying you or your friend is wrong, but news sites could not release a story (at least journalistic ethics say so) based on hearsay alone.

[Knight Hospitaller]

^ He should've said it was an "anonymous source."

[TK2001]

Originally Posted by Raymond LuxuryYacht

The problem is that it is from a friend, so it's all hearsay. I'm not saying you or your friend is wrong, but news sites could not release a story (at least journalistic ethics say so) based on hearsay alone.

Not just a friend, a worker who is working on the building right now

[City Wide]

Originally Posted by TK2001

Not just a friend, a worker who is working on the building right now

with over 1000 people working on this building, just working there doesn't mean they actually know anything. I know someone who tapes sheetrock and has been working there for about six months; partly because of own interests and personality, but he doesn't know 🞵🞵🞵🞵 about anything going on in the building. (Except the AC is working where he works) (but he's got no idea if the HVAC system is working)