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[Urban recluse]

Originally Posted by trueviking

no they don't. Its a hassle that eats away at easy parking revenue...I can assure you developers need to be forced to do it....and if you have leverage like true north you flex your muscles to not do it.

Albert Street parkade is a perfect example of the effort not being worth it, even when the units are built....those would be easy rentals.

The Albert Street parkade is a blight.

[trueviking]

Yeah. It doesn't have to be. It's annoying. Could be quite great with those units rented.

[Urban recluse]

If only the Exchange had a BIZ to work vigorously to change the atmosphere of the area--oh wait...

[Tacheguy]

the D condo development hasn't made any visual progress in nearly two months. I hear some stuff going on inside and the crane is still there, but there has to be some chaos around that project right now..

[Flatland Metropolis]

Originally Posted by Tacheguy

the D condo development hasn't made any visual progress in nearly two months. I hear some stuff going on inside and the crane is still there, but there has to be some chaos around that project right now..

There's actually a thread for that and it may also refute your comment

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...207408&page=39

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by trueviking

Yeah. It doesn't have to be. It's annoying. Could be quite great with those units rented.

I think we should move on from the Radisson discussion. Everyone has different tastes. Some people like that building. Some people are wrong. But it's pointless to continue trying to convince each other. Tastes won't change.

It's so bizarre to me, because you can see in some of them a tiny bit and they're empty. One of them is storage for used grad dresses.

I've actually inquired about leasing one of those spaces... no one ever got back to me from Harvard, even though it's listed as available on the website. My only guess as to why could be that they want to least the whole thing out to one tenant, instead of subdividing - it's listed on the website as one unit.

http://201portage.com/leasing/

Look at the PDF for Suite P-1... Maybe once the concourse renos are done they'll move onto the parkade CRUs. There's just no good reason to not make money off that space, especially with all the vacancies they have in the tower right now.

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

If only the Exchange had a BIZ to work vigorously to change the atmosphere of the area--oh wait...

It's insane how poorly run the Exchange BIZ is. So disheartening.

[robertocarlos]

Why wouldn't Sky flex their muscles and have the CRU portion of the parking garage eliminated. If the city wants a new 40 plus story skyscraper then they will have to back down.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by robertocarlos

Why wouldn't Sky flex their muscles and have the CRU portion of the parking garage eliminated. If the city wants a new 40 plus story skyscraper then they will have to back down.

As vike said, they simply don't have the leverage that Longboat/TNSE does. So they've designed a parkade with CRUs accordingly.

[Urban recluse]

Originally Posted by robertocarlos

Why wouldn't Sky flex their muscles and have the CRU portion of the parking garage eliminated. If the city wants a new 40 plus story skyscraper then they will have to back down.

It sounds as if you are displeased, and would prefer no CRUs

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

It sounds as if you are displeased, and would prefer no CRUs

Some of us are parking garage purists

[Urban recluse]

I am looking forward to this project, if only for the color...

[WolselyMan]

Here's a very well done essay that discusses everything wrong with how we design our downtown's parkades. And why this stuff seriously matters to people.

http://pcag.uwinnipeg.ca/Prairie-Per...l15/Vachon.pdf

[esquire]

^ Damn, that is an awesome looking article. I'm going to read that this weekend. Thanks for sharing it.

[robertocarlos]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

It sounds as if you are displeased, and would prefer no CRUs

I don't like different rules for TNSE. I don't like that people already living in my block can continue smoking when we have a new no smoking policy. Except maybe they will get thrown out for smoking pot now. I don't like bill-boards on roofs.

CRU are OK. As long as there is a back door and you can park your car in there.

[Wolf13]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

I like the rebuilt 104 King Street portion, not the brutalist addition

Ahhh... makes sense, and I agree.

Originally Posted by trueviking

no they don't. Its a hassle that eats away at easy parking revenue...I can assure you developers need to be forced to do it....and if you have leverage like true north you flex your muscles to not do it.

Albert Street parkade is a perfect example of the effort not being worth it, even when the units are built....those would be easy rentals.

What makes more money, a CRU or parking stall?

They don't want them if it's not worth it, is If they're not meeting their parking ratios or it would be pulling teeth to lease out.

Perhaps I could have worded it differently, but in principle, a well executed CRU space in a parking garage is a bonus. Obviously a developer needs to be fought if it is a square peg/round hole situation and as such a developer would be pissed if they are forced by the city to work it out.

Originally Posted by robertocarlos

Why wouldn't Sky flex their muscles and have the CRU portion of the parking garage eliminated. If the city wants a new 40 plus story skyscraper then they will have to back down.

Originally Posted by esquire

As vike said, they simply don't have the leverage that Longboat/TNSE does. So they've designed a parkade with CRUs accordingly.

They also are in a much more manageable retail location than Longboat/AX were with that parkade... they definitely liked the idea of CRU's but the added costs plus leasing risk were not worth it in that spot.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Wolf13

They also are in a much more manageable retail location than Longboat/AX were with that parkade... they definitely liked the idea of CRU's but the added costs plus leasing risk were not worth it in that spot.

I don't think that strip of Smith is really all that great right now... there is virtually no retail on that stretch apart from a questionable little pharmacy and a denture clinic. That said, if the CRUs get leased, that will change the feel dramatically.

I guess the big difference is that the Smith parkade doesn't have the effects of an LC across the street to contend with. But then again, the commercial building that stood there before the parkade was pretty much leased out (admittedly with lower-end tenants, but still).

[robertocarlos]

There were 10 or more stores on the Glasshouse parkade site. TNSE was going to help with the rent. Don't apologize for TNSE, they are a bunch of liars. Lying comes from their used car sales background.

[Urban recluse]

In retrospect, at least one or two units in the CP parkade would have been nice. From an engineering perspective, could you still add CRUs?

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by robertocarlos

There were 10 or more stores on the Glasshouse parkade site. TNSE was going to help with the rent. Don't apologize for TNSE, they are a bunch of liars. Lying comes from their used car sales background.

I know. I hate them for taking down a single story ugly building with some low end tenants. ANd then forcing a tall glass tower on us full of people living there. And then forcing us woth a hotel tower full of guests. Shame on them. Gtfo of our city and leave it alone.
That better ?

[headhorse]

^ it's shameless gentrification, it hasn't been a net positive for downtown, and honestly send the whole lot back to Atlanta if they're going to keep having tax incentives and not follow the same rules that everyone else has to.