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Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland
I would suggest that if you really understood business! You would not work in the public sector!
Your arguments are vague and unconvincing! I look up to brilliant and honest business folks. Those that can make change to a better world. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, as well as Jimmy Patterson all can be considered "philanthropist" I really do not care how much money I can make but what type of impact I can make to help those less fortunate!
If you look at the economic system collapses it is mostly in the public sector left wing servants bleeding the system dry!
That is why the N.D.P. is always a one term government just like all facets of life has (relative) limitation we should both remeber that!
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sunsetmountainland...your suggestion that "if you really understood business! You would not work in the public sector!" is exactly the myth that I enjoy dispelling. When I worked at Caltrans (re: the California state department of transportation) there were folks there with all kinds of professional degrees and qualification/experience....from lawyers to folks with finance degrees to engineers etc., etc.,..if for no other reason than the fact that government has to work/operate in a wider capitalist environment.
What I have noticed though is that many folks who think like you do tend to blame government for national economic problems and NEVER the collective failings of the private sector via capitalism per se (keeping in mind that perceived acts of public sector socialism would NOT have been necessary or politically viable if capitalism had been structurally perfect and without liability or weakness). To better understand this argument please list ALL the interconnected factors that caused the Great Depression in the 1930's.
So, if you look at right wing views on the causes of the Great Depression or even the recent Great Recession you will find that right wing thinkers (like say a Mike Campbell on Canadian radio's "Money talk" or American Rush Limbaugh etc.) do not see or understand the collective realities/impact of the ongoing tendency for GROWING income inequality and attendant GROWING debt which serve to precipitate falling rates of effective consumption/falling profits/falling tax revenues towards collapsing the economy....with government having to come to the rescue via tax funded bailouts, QE2's and targeted government spending to jump start key industries within the private sector (lessons learnt from the many first world New Deal programs of the Great Depression era).
As per your assertion about left wing public sector bureaucrats are "bleeding the system dry" (I guess simply to myopically gain reelection via populism) you fail to understand that unfettered capitalism (without government aid for the poor and wealthy) will result in ANTI-status quo revolutions on the scale of the French and Bolshevik....with private acts of (conscience burdened) philanthropy (by the rich-e.g. Bill Gates etc.) also serving to soften the harshness of capitalism towards preempting violent revolution.
By-the-way, here are a couple of facts that you seem not to understand. 1) in the U.S., the bastion of Western capitalism, wealthy corporations receive far more government welfare than poor workers/families etc.-e.g. industry subsidies, tax breaks, government contracts, financial bailouts etc., with even welfare for the poor, like food stamps, ultimately ending up back in the pockets of the rich as the poor spend these food stamps in the stores of the rich-, 2) government is the SINGLE LARGEST employer of resources and people to gird the fragile private sector and its profits (with the reality that its possible-even if not desirable- to have a nation-state without a private sector but never without government/the public sector).
Finally, the irony of running government within our capitalist system is that government is ultimately run BY THE RICH BUSINESSMAN/POLITICIAN -E.G. BUSH/TRUMP/CHENEY/REAGAN ETC.- to benefit the wealthy (elite few) within the business status quo and not the majority working class, hence should the NDP fail to deliver on its social welfare (re: socialism) goals such failure would not necessarily be an indictment on the lack of validity of such programs but rather the systemic inability of the capitalist market-place to accommodate the costly/expensive and non-profitable services that constitute government's social equity mission (which differs from the private sector's profit first mantra--A CONSTANT CONUNDRUM FACED WHEN PUBLIC SECTOR PLANNERS ARE FORCED TO RECONCILE THE PRIVATE -BANKING/FINANCE- SECTOR NEED FOR INCREASING PROFITS IN JUXTAPOSITION TO GOVERNMENT'S ATTEMPT TO DELIVER CRITICAL COMMUNITY SAVING SERVICES TO THE MANY CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME PAYING).
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