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Old Posted Jul 21, 2017, 11:47 PM
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I agree with most of your points.

Their was definitely a theater though. At the beginning of the event, you're attention goes to the hologram scanners. If you looked around, you would have seen the movie screen on the east wall (between the door where we come in and the door when we go back out towards the station). If you looked to the west side of the room, you would have seen 2 more doors (well curtains) to what was once the lobby, and the multi-leveled seating area. Same basic layout as any other theater.
yes and my point was that they said there would be a video to watch in the theater before the tour began. i get a sense that they threw the production together quickly when they knew what kind of space they were working with, rather than the "year" of planning they discuss. maybe years of planning the construction and safety of it all, but its like they didn't even know what the show would actually be until the last minute.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2017, 7:43 AM
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Didn't sens the sarcasm; I though you literally did not realize that was the theater.

Video playing was this, only on the screen, not the side walls;



Hologram was the only part of the production that was kinda of cool. The rest was a little random and underwhelming (grocery store plastic curtains with the strobe light, the jungle room). And I think 2 months of this is a little much. A month would have been sufficient so they can get moving on the station's completion.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2017, 11:39 AM
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And I think 2 months of this is a little much. A month would have been sufficient so they can get moving on the station's completion.
So this show is delaying the LRT construction?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2017, 11:46 AM
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So this show is delaying the LRT construction?
At least delaying the construction of Lyon Station. As per the Confederation Line website;



July 27, 2017 Construction Updates

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The station cavern and both entrances have been handed over to Ottawa2017 for the Kontinuum multi-media show. Crews will continue to perform work in areas that will not affect Kontinuum, and streetscaping activities along Lyon and Queen streets continue. Full station and entrance work will resume in the fall once the show finishes.

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They might have re-assigned the Lyon workers to other projects, but we havent heard any confirmation.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2017, 5:48 PM
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Kontinuum's opening week draws more than 15,000 visitors

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: July 21, 2017 | Last Updated: July 21, 2017 4:58 PM EDT




More than 15,000 people checked out the Kontinuum underground multimedia show in its opening week, organizers say.

The unique Ottawa 2017 event takes visitors into the unfinished Lyon LRT station for an immersive sound and light experience created by Montreal’s Moment Factory. The overall budget was about $4 million.

Entry is free and tickets can be reserved online at www.ottawa2017.ca/events/signature-events/kontinuum. The show runs daily until Sept. 14, from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m.

As of noon Friday, more than 82,500 tickets had been reserved, according to Ottawa 2017 media relations manager Denise LeBlanc. Meanwhile, more than 15,000 people had visited between Sunday and Thursday.

The public’s positive response to Kontinuum was welcome news to Moment Factory’s multimedia director Yael Braha.

“That, to me, is the best reward,” she said by phone from Montreal (she had just returned there after spending more than a month in Ottawa setting up the show).

Working in the unfinished, underground future home of an LRT station was a unique opportunity and pushed the creative team to create a show that would evoke the LRT and its significance to the city, she said. The concepts of travel, journey and the station as a future hub of connection for people were also part of their thinking.

And, of course, making the experience interactive was crucial.

Upon entering the theatre, visitors can have their body scanned (not by X-rays) to determine its frequencies and what colour that frequency is. A screen inside the theatre can then project a hologram of the scan onto the train as it arrives in the station, and visitors can later download it right onto their phone with the Ottawa 2017 app.

“People love, love, love being part of it,” Braha said.

A team of about 80 people at Moment Factory worked on the project, while a crew of 30 installed it.

Braha credited Ottawa 2017, the O-Train Construction office and the Rideau Transit Group, the city’s LRT contractor, for being so cooperative. “It’s not just the work of one person.”

Originally from Rome, her skills and training in graphic design, moving images and sculpture made her a multimedia triple-threat when she moved to Montreal specifically for a job at Moment Factory, which was co-founded by Sakchin Bessette, a graduate of Lowertown’s De La Salle high school.

The production has a few other Ottawa connections — the music, which shifts from zen-like lounge vibes to throbbing beats to swelling strings, was composed by Vincent Letellier and the lighting was designed by Ian MacDonald.

Organizers didn’t release the full inventory of tickets right away because they wanted to see how long it would take people to go through Kontinuum, which begins inside the old Place de Ville movie theatre off Sparks Street, leads visitors around to the station’s eastern entrance off Queen Street and down to the platform level. At the end, the audience exits via an escalator that leads to the Lyon station entrance on the southwest corner of Queen and Lyon.

The entire experience involves walking about 500 metres and takes about 30 minutes to complete (security and volunteers are on hand to keep people moving).

Now that they know how long most people take to complete it, LeBlanc said Ottawa 2017 has increased the daily capacity so more people can go through. Organizers are also encouraging walk-ups, in addition to the online reservations.

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Has anyone tried just showing up and joining a show?

Tickets are "sold out" for weeks... but being free and with 70(?) allowed in at a time, I'm sure there must be a pretty high no-show rate.
     
     
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Has anyone tried just showing up and joining a show?

Tickets are "sold out" for weeks... but being free and with 70(?) allowed in at a time, I'm sure there must be a pretty high no-show rate.
They really should have split it. 50 pre-book. 20 available on site. Something like that.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2017, 2:23 AM
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Has anyone tried just showing up and joining a show?

Tickets are "sold out" for weeks... but being free and with 70(?) allowed in at a time, I'm sure there must be a pretty high no-show rate.
I went three times without a ticket.
     
     
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I went three times without a ticket.
Went around 1pm today (without a ticket) and walked right in... it was busy, but no line-up at all.

I too was impressed at how spacious the whole cavern seemed... I really expected something tighter... getting pretty excited about the final product now
     
     
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Went around 1pm today (without a ticket) and walked right in... it was busy, but no line-up at all.

I too was impressed at how spacious the whole cavern seemed... I really expected something tighter... getting pretty excited about the final product now
What I was surprised at in the station was the depth of the tracks vs. platform. Its only about a foot maybe two? seemed like a very easy step down. Used to seeing these heavy trains in a subway line with five foot deep tracks.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2017, 1:57 PM
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What I was surprised at in the station was the depth of the tracks vs. platform. Its only about a foot maybe two? seemed like a very easy step down. Used to seeing these heavy trains in a subway line with five foot deep tracks.
Well.. thats what we get for going with a surface LRT for a true subway. Lots of discussion on the silliness of this many pages back in this thread.
     
     
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Well.. thats what we get for going with a surface LRT for a true subway. Lots of discussion on the silliness of this many pages back in this thread.
What, we get underground stations that are less deathy?
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The tracks were actually deeper than I expected, based on the rennderings.

When they use these kinds of trains as streetcars or "classic" LRT, the tracks are embedded in the concrete and/or asphalt. With our system, where trains are used as a metro, the tracks are on top of the concrete bed, making that gap higher. This way, the drop is high enough so that it's obvious you should't step down, yet shallow enough to prevent injuries for people who might fall in accidentally, and easier to climb out of if that happens. And the lack of the third rail makes it much safer.

The only thing I have against the low-floor LRT technology is the reduction of space inside the car. Realistically though, does it eliminate all that much capacity?
     
     
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The tracks were actually deeper than I expected, based on the rennderings.

When they use these kinds of trains as streetcars or "classic" LRT, the tracks are embedded in the concrete and/or asphalt. With our system, where trains are used as a metro, the tracks are on top of the concrete bed, making that gap higher. This way, the drop is high enough so that it's obvious you should't step down, yet shallow enough to prevent injuries for people who might fall in accidentally, and easier to climb out of if that happens. And the lack of the third rail makes it much safer.

The only thing I have against the low-floor LRT technology is the reduction of space inside the car. Realistically though, does it eliminate all that much capacity?
That was also my first thought when I saw the platforms (i.e. deeper than expected), and your summary makes a lot of sense.

I guess only time will tell how the overall look-and-feel of the low floor compares to a high floor... but I can't ever recall being on a "low floor" subway... and I've been on many, many dozen.
     
     
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I saw a couple of train sets along the Queensway in the East end doing testing yesterday, they look great! We'll be riding them soon!
     
     
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That was also my first thought when I saw the platforms (i.e. deeper than expected), and your summary makes a lot of sense.

I guess only time will tell how the overall look-and-feel of the low floor compares to a high floor... but I can't ever recall being on a "low floor" subway... and I've been on many, many dozen.
I've been on the Seattle Link trains, which has about half a dozen underground stations now although it does have some level crossings. I can't say I had any complaints, although i think I prefer how our trains are low floor throughout versus the steps up and down at the ends on the Link trains. I think it's also better we're running longer cars then they are (48m x 2 vs 26m x 3 ). In the underground stations that aren't shared with busses, the height of the platform to the track is similar to what you guys describe (haven't been to Kontinuum yet). The shared stations end up having just a high curb.

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Seattle's train tracks are embedded (obviously, to allow buses), so there's even less of a difference in height between the platform and roadway/rail-bed then Ottawa's fully exposed rail.


http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/...ghway-running-may-be-partially-tunneled/


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Seattle's train tracks are embedded (obviously, to allow buses), so there's even less of a difference in height between the platform and roadway/rail-bed then Ottawa's fully exposed rail.
In the Downtown tunnel yes, but not on LRT only stations like Beacon Hill:

     
     
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Great pic J.OT... The cool thing about this photo is the left vs right choice we must make upstairs... left leads to the platform with actual tracks.. right doesn't ..

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In the Downtown tunnel yes, but not on LRT only stations like Beacon Hill:

Never seen those stations...
     
     
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