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Originally Posted by TakeFive
 My apologies but this site doesn't have a sarcasm or tongue-in-cheek font. I'm not srsly advocating for building more freeways.
Over the decades as freeways were built it's true they were sited in less desirable often industrial areas. Whether before or after being built it's also true that lower income people choose to live nearby as it was a more affordable option. People aren't forced to live adjacent to freeways etc but they should have the right to do so if it provides a more affordable option. That's all.
I'm fairly familiar with those who specialize in subsidized/affordable housing including the use of LIHTC's and fully support their efforts.
With respect to Phoenix they are a great FUNDING model for transportation. Denver is a totally different type of metro area so what works for Phoenix isn't appropriate for Denver and vice versa. Each city/metro area must determine what is best for themselves but it all boils down to having the necessary funding. I would point out that the (now) 26 miles of light rail in Phoenix has a ridership per mile that is right up there next to Portland's ridership so perhaps they have done this right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_light_rail_systems_by_ridership |
What?! No!
Phoenix has a greater population than Portland and less than a third light rail miles. It is not enough to gather some numbers and put them in a ranked list. Without understanding other numbers (like population and line miles) I can see how phx light rail would seem impressive but it totally is not.
First 26 miles for a metro that size is dreadful under investment and shows a serious lack of planning. Second I would hope that a larger metro with fewer miles would look respectable when measured in trips per mile. Third To rehash the second point a smaller population is using 3 times the rail miles as a larger one aND doing so at a higher rate per mile!
Don't look to PHX for transit answers, ever. Srsly you can pretty much completely ignore PHX. Denver already has a larger system than PHX with better numbers per mile. If Denver should be looking anywhere it should be at larger cities like SF or NY that have grown while maintaining amd improving impressive ridership numbers and smaller metros like Portland and Salt Lake that are punching above their weight class. Don't look to similar sized cities with inferior transit for answers. That's dumb
Here is a better yet still not perfect ranking(PHX clocks in at less than half the trips per capita as Denver. PHX is just behind El Paso Tx, yuck)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtye...your-citys-public-transit-stacks-up/amp/
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