Edmonton Construction 13 (November 2015)

[s4.audios]

Yah at that sqf, would be more like a 2bd plus den where you can probably accomodate one kid and a baby at most.

My perception is you practically get pushed out of downtown and close vicinity the moment you have two kids over say ten years old. Unless you are well above middle class salaries.

[240glt]

Originally Posted by s4.audios

See that number needs to drop somehow imo. I totally get that you have to pay more the more central you are, and understandably so. But that difference in price is just too large and why sprawl will continue to forever win.

240, affordable housing in undesired neighborhoods is true, but they are undesired. Making them cleaner, safer, and taking away negative perception will result in jacked up prices. So you're still stuck losing.

Also, I haven't shopped around so could be very wrong here but, my parent's hood Inglewood which is fairly central but arguably the outskirts of "central". New infill goes goes for about $450K more or less. Don't think I've ever heard of anything new close to $300K, and it is not that central. Edit.. Inglewood definitely has cleaned up quite a bit lately but still doesn't have a rosy perception either.

Here's a 3+3 duplex in Inglewood for under $400k

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Singl...NW-Edmonton-Alberta-T5M0B4-InglewoodEDMO

and a 4 + 2 for around $325

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Singl...-NW-NW-Edmonton-Alberta-T5M0M2-Westmount

Brand new in McCauley for $389

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Singl...A-AV-NW-Edmonton-Alberta-T5H1G3-Mccauley


Not a ton for sale centrally though, I am a bit surprised that the inventory is so low.

But really there isn't a $ premium to live Centrally in Edmonton, there are so many ways to do it, the problem is that both the buyers and those trying to solve the problem are taking a very one dimensional approach to it

[McBoo]

I've got 900 sq feet and took out one of the two bedrooms they were so small!!

[Coldrsx]

I lived in a 2 +den in Van which was 820sqft and with the storage unit in the parkade was perfectly fine for a fam.

In HK my friend has a 670sqft 3bdrm, little storage, but it worked well and his family lives there to this day with him,wife, 8, 6yr old.

Podium townhouses I have been in that work very well are 1000-1200sqft with 2+den.

Again, it can and is possible, but opportunity costs and the fact that single fam is plentiful, nearby and affordable means we won't see many 3bdrm condos.

[s4.audios]

Alright prices have definitely dropped for infill in the past year or so, lol I did say I may be very wrong. Surprised with that McCauley one but would definitely have to see the finished product.

Although true then you can get affordable in a more core neighbourhood, this is still not comparing to the core, high dense, urban lifestyle.

Cold you have a point, can definitely go smaller and have a family. People do it especially in more populated cities, and countries (or areas) with lower standard of living. Here though, you still pay more for much less sqf. If I pay more for same size, sure, but more for less? It is hard to compete, and for same size it is ridiculously more. A townhouse with 1,200 will easily run $650K and up.

Also note, I am talking about comparing new to new. Affordability is easily achievable if you are willing to reduce your expectations. You can definitely put a family in a wood frame 3 storey apartment building built in the 70/80's that will cost under $250K in or very near the core.

[240glt]

Still affordable in the core. Our 2 + 2 condo in McKay was pretty newish and not high end by any means, you can still get into that building for around 250k

Cold can wax poetic about families all he wants but the practical reality is that the vast, vast number of families would rather not live in the core, and for the few that do, unfortunately they're either going to need to compromise or pay up for a big place. But if you're prepared to do that you can find a place I am sure. Or like the rest of us when we buy homes, temper their dreams with a dose of reality

[s4.audios]

And that is what I mean, it is definitely doable, but with big compromise. And that compromise right now is just far too large to compete with the burbs. Only the few 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 urbanites will do it.

[240glt]

Originally Posted by s4.audios

And that is what I mean, it is definitely doable, but with big compromise. And that compromise right now is just far too large to compete with the burbs. Only the few 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 urbanites will do it.

But really, what is wrong with that ? Focus your attention on providing an environment that those types who want that type of lifestyle. They obviously exist, so focus your attention on them. People don't just make big compromises unless they have a real reason to do so. In Edmonton those reasons don't exist

[Coldrsx]

Encore

https://twitter.com/IanOyeg

Raymond Block

https://twitter.com/IanOyeg

Mezzo - had a tour of the sales centre, incredibly impressive. Love the patios, top floor amenities, townhouses and retail. This is an excellent project.

https://twitter.com/IanOyeg

[itom 987]

Any activity going on with this site, Founders Ridge?
Edmonton June 24, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

Edmonton June 24, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

[itom 987]

^^ I am surprised at how small the site for Encore is, I didn't know that the small surface parking lot behind it was not part of it.

[itom 987]

Ice District
Edmonton June 24, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

Edmonton June 24, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

JW Marriott Hotel and Ice District Tower B
Edmonton June 24, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

Stantec Tower
Edmonton June 24, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

[Coldrsx]

Great photos.

Encore site - wish they had included that little lot.

Founder's Ridge is a stale DC2 which is now dated and needs to be updated both in design and product offering.

[Hallsy's Toupee]

Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

There's chatter on C2E about the Urban China restaurant site on 101 St north of downtown being redeveloped into a 220-room hotel by APX Hospitality, probably a Holiday Inn.

http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/showthrea...-Hotel-(10604-101-Street)-Hotel-Proposed

[s211]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Founder's Ridge is a stale DC2 which is now dated and needs to be updated both in design and product offering.

GMH is Gooch, yes? A new architect would be required, otherwise Gooch will just pull another slap-dash third-rate iteration out of his very limited palate.

[itom 987]

The MacLaren
Edmonton June 25, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

Edmonton June 25, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

Clifton Place
Edmonton June 25, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

Recently completed 102 Ave. bridge
Edmonton June 25, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

I thought this was a nice touch, this was the surface cars drove over on the old bridge.
Edmonton June 25, 2017 by Thomas Huizinga, on Flickr

[Hallsy's Toupee]

They've started demolishing the rear of the Southpark dealership building on the SW corner of Whyte/106 St

[Hallsy's Toupee]

Concerns over proposed 30-storey condo near downtown Edmonton

http://globalnews.ca/news/3554809/concerns-over-proposed-30-storey-condo-near-downtown-edmonton

City staff are not throwing their support behind a proposed condo in Edmonton’s Oliver neighbourhood.

The building is being proposed at 99 Avenue and 111 Street, and an application has been submitted to change the zoning to allow for a 90-metre tall high rise, or up to 30 storeys. Current zoning in the area restricts buildings to four storeys.

The city’s sustainable development department has reservations about the design of the building, which would be directly adjacent to a four storey apartment building.

“The proposed zone would allow for a tall tower on a very small site, while not providing appropriate transitions to surrounding properties and the public realm. As such, it is an overdevelopment of the site that does not contribute to the liveability of the Oliver neighbourhood,” reads a report headed to a city council public hearing this week.

Area councillor Scott McKeen said the building is nicely designed, but he is concerned about the height of the proposed condo.

“We’re putting a lot of people on not that much space and then the distance between the proposed tower and the four storey apartment building next door is not very much,” he said. “We can’t ignore the people [next door] who were living next to two houses. I don’t think in their wildest dreams or nightmares they would have imagined a 27-storey [building] going in next door.”

McKeen said he will be giving weight to the advice from city staff but also said he is keeping an open mind ahead of the public hearing.

[Hallsy's Toupee]

Brewery District patrons parking in adjacent lot get hit with tickets
http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-ne...in-adjacent-lot-getting-hit-with-tickets

A Brewery District customer is warning other motorists after he was hit with a $50 parking fine for walking to the wrong building.

Kevin Hicks said he has been going to the GoodLife Fitness gym for approximately six months, about twice per week. Often, he will walk across the parking lot to Booster Juice for a smoothie.

But earlier this month, when he returned to his vehicle, parked between GoodLife Fitness and Staples, he found a parking ticket.

“It’s stupid,” Hicks said.

GoodLife Fitness is located at 11962 104 Ave., while Booster Juice is at 11838 104 Ave.

Hicks said it was “ridiculous” that people are expected to drive six metres (20 feet).

When he asked Precise Parklink why he got the ticket, he was told he was observed walking off the lot.

He said he scanned into the gym at 9:30 a.m. and received the ticket at 9:52 a.m., and disputed the claim that he was observed.

The parking company sent him a drawing of the lot it is responsible for. The company told Hicks his vehicle was parked in Oliver Square, not the Brewery District.

Hicks said at the same time he received his ticket, a woman who was shopping at London Drugs and ran into Petland was also ticketed.

[DRan]

Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

Looking at their portfolio I am guessing this will be a Holiday Inn