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Old Posted Jun 16, 2017, 7:05 PM
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Klein definitely didn't do Edmonton any favours, but this goes back before the Klein years, even as mayor of Calgary. It started in the late 60s and early 70s with Husky Oil/Lougheed and was further exacerbated by the Klein/Reimer years.
I would say moving the Energy and Utilities Board to Calgary from Edmonton and the feds then establishing the NEB in Calgary during the 1950's is what got the ball rolling.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2017, 7:12 PM
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Thank you for expressing very eloquently what I tried to express and then hit delete before sending.

(Massive projects like this don't get built using pixie dust, elf tears and unicorn farts.)
Fair point. However, it's important to recognize that the spectrum here is wide. On one end you have a development by the likes of Brookfield which would immediately gain name recognition and be considered a very serious and plausible business opportunity. On the other end of the spectrum you have the Edmontonians of this world with no track record of anything in terms of development. They simply have an end game in mind of injecting the lowest cost to upzone a derelict property and then put it up on the market.

While Aldritt and their proposal might not sit in the former bucket, it certainly does not sit in the latter. This is a historic organization with access to capital and significant exposure to the development industry. And while they haven't previously developed a high rise tower, it's not as if they have held there position in DT over the years to develop single family homes.

Couple all of this with the fact that the proposal is for mixed use (resi/hotel) by a local developer (so not even a good comparison to the classic commercial high rise development that would be led by a Brookfield or Oxford, which would be predicated solely on pre-leased anchor tenants) who has invested time and money (folks having dealt with administration know that these types of massive zoning/land sale & swap deals don't just magically occur for free) into this proposal and are continuing to provide updates to the community and engage the public (post zoning approval), all while having the support of notable individuals who have been part of large scale commercial developments (i.e. KenC), certainly does bode well for this project.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2017, 8:10 PM
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2017, 8:23 PM
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well... enjoy those gravel parking lots then? apparently corporate execs felt differently

still don't understand how people think you can increase the population in an area without also improving the transportation network somehow..
I agree. We need only look at the new bike network and many new rapid transit lines proposed to see that we are finally getting close to that goal.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2017, 8:25 PM
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Only the most overzealous urbanista would equate poor access with attractiveness in Edmonton. Our downtown needs all the help it can get in being more attractive and 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 everyone off who's trying to get down there isn't going to help. I hear nothing but complaints about how people hate coming down here, on a daily basis.

This ain't Vancouver. Or Calgary for that matter
Okee dokie buddy. Enjoy your sea of prime parking. To quote a great local journalist, NO ONE visits an attractive area for the parking.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2017, 8:27 PM
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skepticism is healthy, particularly when offered in a constructive way - as you have done here - the project and developer have significant challenges to address. perhaps cynicism is the more accurate way to describe the reactions of many Edmontonians to development proposals.
Every project should be critically evaluated from all angles before being approved. The City of Vancouver can demand to see developers' pro-formas before making a decision on a proposal. Maybe Edmonton and Calgary should be empowered to do the same.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 1:05 AM
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There's chatter on C2E about the Urban China restaurant site on 101 St north of downtown being redeveloped into a 220-room hotel by APX Hospitality, probably a Holiday Inn.

http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/showthrea...-Hotel-(10604-101-Street)-Hotel-Proposed
     
     
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There's chatter on C2E about the Urban China restaurant site on 101 St north of downtown being redeveloped into a 220-room hotel by APX Hospitality, probably a Holiday Inn.

http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/showthrea...-Hotel-(10604-101-Street)-Hotel-Proposed
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 5:40 AM
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 2:23 PM
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What a day Downtown today.

9-11am DECL pancake breakfast
9-3pm City Market
1-11pm Mercer/104 Street Super Party

Come on down and checkout the construction sites with a photo tour/update.
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The MacLaren's crane is going up this morning!

Crane Installation - The MacLaren: June 17, 2017 by Brendan Eirich, on Flickr
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 6:06 PM
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Looking forward to see the MacLaren rise.

A Classy looking bookend to Jasper Ave.
     
     
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It looks like they're going to be using a luffing jib style crane rather than the more common (in Edmonton, at least) horizontal jib style. The raked-back A-Frame would seem to suggest this.

MacLaren Crane Installation Continued: June 17, 2017 by Brendan Eirich, on Flickr
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 10:37 PM
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ok, 1 more before heading back out.


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Downtown Edmonton is gleaming with all that new glass.
     
     
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Wow - this article on the London high-rise tower being renovated with materials on the exterior that are illegal for use is interesting.

"My understanding is that the cladding that was reported wasn't in accordance with U.K. building regulations," Hands told Sky News. "We need to find out precisely what cladding was used and how it was attached."

"Labour Party legislator David Lammy said the government and police should immediately seize all documents relating to the building's renovation to prevent the destruction of evidence that could show criminal wrongdoing."

I will bet the warrant for seizures of documents is already complete and seizures are happening. I will be the City inspectors are under the microscope as well. Just looking at the TV of the burning building the exterior envelope burnt like a piece of paper.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/london-grenfell-tower-highrise-apartment-fire-1.4166318
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2017, 9:32 PM
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I think if anything good can come from this tragedy is that there will a hyper-awareness effect for safety in high rise architecture for at least 10 years and hopefully another advancement in technology to prevent things like this from ever happening again...
     
     
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Here's a shot of Ice district as of Saturday.

     
     
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2017, 12:16 AM
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