YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[excel]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Is there any rule of thumb on how to know which direction planes arriving and departing YVR come in?

Wind direction. If the wind is out of the west they will land westbound on 26R and take off westbound on 26L. If wind is out of the east they will land eastbound on 08L and take off eastbound on 08R.

[jacobparry]

https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2017/06/12/skyteam-open-vancouver-lounge/

"Skyteam has announced plans to open a branded lounge at Vancouver International airport later this year.

The facility will be the alliance’s first branded lounge in North America, and seventh worldwide, joining spaces at Heathrow, Beijing, Dubai, Hong Kong, Istanbul and Sydney.

The lounge at Vancouver will offer “a luxurious environment for First, Business and Elite Plus customers flying on any of the alliance’s nine member airlines currently serving the airport” – carriers which include Aeromexico, China Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Delta, KLM, Korean Air and Xiamen Air."

[excel]

Joining some of the big boy airports.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by excel

Paine Field is south of Everett and takes about an hour longer to get to compared to Bellingham.

I think Paine Field has the potential to cause real pain to BLI. BLI relies on Canadian traffic and local Bellingham users. Paine field will have the advantage of a much larger population center ( everything North of Seattle ) and it's only an hour extra for Bellingham residents. With the Canadian Dollar the way it is, BLI is less attractive... although you do save on international fees.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

I think Paine Field has the potential to cause real pain to BLI. BLI relies on Canadian traffic and local Bellingham users. Paine field will have the advantage of a much larger population center ( everything North of Seattle ) and it's only an hour extra for Bellingham residents. With the Canadian Dollar the way it is, BLI is less attractive... although you do save on international fees.

BLI has been whacked big time by the drop in Cdn dollar:
Last year, 417,930 people flew out of the Bellingham airport, down eight per cent from 2015 and a five-year low. Between 2014 and 2015, the airport recorded a 16 per cent drop.
http://vancouversun.com/business/local-b...-numbers-dip-due-to-weak-canadian-dollar

[deasine]

Originally Posted by jacobparry

https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2017/06/12/skyteam-open-vancouver-lounge/

"Skyteam has announced plans to open a branded lounge at Vancouver International airport later this year.

The facility will be the alliance’s first branded lounge in North America, and seventh worldwide, joining spaces at Heathrow, Beijing, Dubai, Hong Kong, Istanbul and Sydney.

The lounge at Vancouver will offer “a luxurious environment for First, Business and Elite Plus customers flying on any of the alliance’s nine member airlines currently serving the airport” – carriers which include Aeromexico, China Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Delta, KLM, Korean Air and Xiamen Air."

Does anyone know where they are doing this? I can only think of the old Cathay Pacific space but I would have thought Air Canada would takeover with a double storey offer given how busy their lounge is already.

[nname]

Originally Posted by jacobparry

The lounge at Vancouver will offer “a luxurious environment for First, Business and Elite Plus customers flying on any of the alliance’s nine member airlines currently serving the airport” – carriers which include Aeromexico, China Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Delta, KLM, Korean Air and Xiamen Air."

And they missed Air France

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by jacobparry

https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2017/06/12/skyteam-open-vancouver-lounge/
nine member airlines currently serving the airport” – carriers which include Aeromexico, China Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Delta, KLM, Korean Air and Xiamen Air."

...and Air France.

Guess Mark Caswell didn't bother to count.

With nine airlines, makes sense to have such a lounge at YVR. YUL has less skyteam metal, and AF operates a lounge here.

[LeftCoaster]

he got the 9 part right, just forgot to double check he had em all.

[trofirhen]

When WestJet goes big (and the route map on the picture on the wall looks pretty big) it will be Canada's other gateway airline, with the present configuration of YYZ as the biggest hub,
followed by YVR, then YYC, then YUL, it seems (rather the status quo). YVR - according to the map - would have greater Oceania presence, and flights to Lima and Santiago. YYZ looks dense. It, too, would have nonstops to second-tier cities like Chengdu, plus, it would seem, Europe galore.
I wonder WJ will remain independent or join an alliance. Company officials have been heard quoting that it will not join or codeshare with *A, so, as direct competition to AC might they go Skyteam, maybe One World? CP / Canadian was Oneworld, very briefly, as everyone knows. Ideas on all this? I'm keen to see WJ go big-time, and kick ass.

[spaceprobe]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

When WestJet goes big (and the route map on the picture on the wall looks pretty big) it will be Canada's other gateway airline, with the present configuration of YYZ as the biggest hub,
followed by YVR, then YYC, then YUL, it seems (rather the status quo). YVR - according to the map - would have greater Oceania presence, and flights to Lima and Santiago. YYZ looks dense. It, too, would have nonstops to second-tier cities like Chengdu, plus, it would seem, Europe galore.
I wonder WJ will remain independent or join an alliance. Company officials have been heard quoting that it will not join or codeshare with *A, so, as direct competition to AC might they go Skyteam, maybe One World? CP / Canadian was Oneworld, very briefly, as everyone knows. Ideas on all this? I'm keen to see WJ go big-time, and kick ass.

From that map 2 pages back...it looks like Chengdu (the city furthest left in China) is linked to Vancouver, not to Toronto. Delhi is also linked to Vancouver.
In any case, I wonder how realistic their map is.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by spaceprobe

From that map 2 pages back...it looks like Chengdu (the city furthest left in China) is linked to Vancouver, not to Toronto. Delhi is also linked to Vancouver.
In any case, I wonder how realistic their map is.

You're right about Chengdu. It's HK that has two "prongs" going into it.
The map, which I am sure is a tentative and not concrete version of where the new WJ will want to fly is nevertheless impressive.
It very much seems to overlap AC. Both airlines would be trying to take bites out of much the same market. WJ goal, of course, will be to undercut AC and make them bleed badly

[Hot Rod]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

When WestJet goes big (and the route map on the picture on the wall looks pretty big) it will be Canada's other gateway airline, with the present configuration of YYZ as the biggest hub,
followed by YVR, then YYC, then YUL, it seems (rather the status quo). YVR - according to the map - would have greater Oceania presence, and flights to Lima and Santiago. YYZ looks dense. It, too, would have nonstops to second-tier cities like Chengdu, plus, it would seem, Europe galore.
I wonder WJ will remain independent or join an alliance. Company officials have been heard quoting that it will not join or codeshare with *A, so, as direct competition to AC might they go Skyteam, maybe One World? CP / Canadian was Oneworld, very briefly, as everyone knows. Ideas on all this? I'm keen to see WJ go big-time, and kick ass.

This is why Oneworld was originally based in Vancouver (prior to moving to the current NYC). I believe there was a question about this long ago asking why they were based here - if you consider the bold, Oneworld was likely initiated in Vancouver with CP/Canadian leading the way. ...

[Gordon]

Both AC YVR Boston (around 8:30 AM & the seasonal UA YVR - EWR (1:00 PM)start next week

[nname]

Originally Posted by Gordon

Both AC YVR Boston (around 8:30 AM & the seasonal UA YVR - EWR (1:00 PM)start next week

I guess next week we'll see Gate E85 in action?

[Gordon]

We may also see some mainline traffic through gates E90- 92.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Hot Rod

This is why Oneworld was originally based in Vancouver (prior to moving to the current NYC). I believe there was a question about this long ago asking why they were based here - if you consider the bold, Oneworld was likely initiated in Vancouver with CP/Canadian leading the way. ...

... and that's something to remember, and be proud of.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by Hot Rod

This is why Oneworld was originally based in Vancouver (prior to moving to the current NYC). I believe there was a question about this long ago asking why they were based here - if you consider the bold, Oneworld was likely initiated in Vancouver with CP/Canadian leading the way. ...

OneWorld was based in YVR because it offered the easiest connection opportunities for member airlines HQ and because CP had extra space that could be cheaply utilized. YVR/Canada also had the advantage of not having a dog in the airline competition fight like what was experienced at the FCC and European counterpart. .

[Gordon]

AC yvr - ORD has been upguaged from an E175 to an A 319.

Do \ can main line jets use gates E90 - 92 OR just regionals?

[Lancaster]

Originally Posted by Gordon

AC yvr - ORD has been upguaged from an E175 to an A 319.

Do \ can main line jets use gates E90 - 92 OR just regionals?

The biggest aircraft size on 90-92 was recently changed I think to fit bigger planes. Though it would be quite uncomfortable to board mainline aircraft from those gates...