Confederation Line (Stage 1) | In Service 1.0

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

According to one doc (can't find it offhand), the entrance on the street is a third entrance, but it's the elevators. The entrances in the Sunlife building and the one in the Winners/Zellers aren't accessible for wheelchairs

Found it... the landscaping plan for Queen Street shows the location of all the entrances, including the aforementioned elevators shown on the rendering:

http://catherinemckenney.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/QUEEN-STREET-1494-PLAN-LAYOUT.pdf

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by acottawa

At Parliament they are clearly building an entrance into the Sun Life building and an entrance in the Heritage/Winners building. Is that thing on the sidewalk in the rendering a third entrance or some sort of emergency exit?

But - Winners and the Heritage Building are not the same building.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

But - Winners and the Heritage Building are not the same building.

They're connected (the top floors of the former department store are office space for the heritage building). Not sure if there is a connection at the ground level or basement as well (there wasn't when Zellers was there, but it seems like a feature winners would want).

[Arcologist]

I just noticed from the renderings that many of the above-ground stations are not fully enclosed... going to be brutal in winter! Poor decision, imo.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

I just noticed from the renderings that many of the above-ground stations are not fully enclosed... going to be brutal in winter! Poor decision, imo.

Yes, the stations are cleverly designed to be as cold as possible in winter and as sun-drenched and sweat-inducing in summer.

This is what happens when you let people who drive everywhere design your transit system.

[zzptichka]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

I just noticed from the renderings that many of the above-ground stations are not fully enclosed... going to be brutal in winter! Poor decision, imo.

Have you seen 99% of bus shelters(or lack of thereof) in this city?
If you get brutally cold while waiting for 2 minutes in a partially enclosed station then you'd probably be dead after waiting 15-30 minutes basically on the street when transferring to a bus.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by zzptichka

Have you seen 99% of bus shelters(or lack of thereof) in this city?
If you get brutally cold while waiting for 2 minutes in a partially enclosed station then you'd probably be dead after waiting 15-30 minutes basically on the street when transferring to a bus.

Interesting that there will be better shelters for the short wait for getting on the train than the longer waits for transfers to buses at the same stations.

[Arcologist]

Does anybody know who designed the stations?

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it was some firm from Florida, or the likes...

Makes you wonder why they even bothered with a roof?!?

[TransitZilla]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

Does anybody know who designed the stations?

BBB Architects; they're an Ottawa firm: http://www.bbbarchitecture.com/index.php

They did the Convention (Shaw) Centre and TD Place the airport.

Maybe the criticism is jumping the gun a little bit?

[acottawa]

Not sure it makes sense to blame the architects, they almost certainly got the specs from the consortium and the city.

I would assume it came down to cost.

[TransitZilla]

The architects do have a section of their website dedicated to their design philosophy regarding the Confederation Line stations:

http://www.bbbarchitecture.com/thinking_olrt.php

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

Does anybody know who designed the stations?

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it was some firm from Florida, or the likes...

Makes you wonder why they even bothered with a roof?!?

This sort of thing is actually very common with everything. Very few of our buildings and structures are actually designed with a winter climate in mind. Civil engineering standards made in California are forced on the whole world.

[Kitchissippi]

I don't mind the cold thing as it requires people to dress and be prepared for the weather. One impression I have, though, is that some stations like Pimisi look like giant rain and snow chutes right on to the tracks. I hope they have excellent clog-free gutters. I look at the latest renderings for Blair, for example, and wonder if during a torrential downpour where all the rainwater on that middle glass part is supposed to flow:



In general I like the station designs, there are just a few other unfortunate things that could have maybe been avoided, like how this elevator head house creates a blind spot right next to a busy downtown crosswalk. Locating it at least 10 meters further mid block would have been nice.

[J.OT13]

I'm still a little ticked that they named the station Parliament/Parlement. Just naming it O'Connor would have been so much simpler (and intuitive).

But anyway. I find it strange that Lyon's two entrances (the third, we don't know yet) all have escalators and elevators; of the three Rideau entrances, one is escalators only, one is elevators only and the third has both while Parliament/Parlement, apparently the busiest station in the system, only has one elevator entrance... on the sidewalk. Why do people with mobility issues have to go outside in the heat, cold, rain, snow, freezing rain, all the way to the elevators while the abled bodied people get to enjoy an indoor connection?

[J.OT13]

I like that our downtown station entrances are highly visible and inviting. They're bright, they have the big square light box with the station name and giant "O", the pole with the red donut.

In Montreal, downtown station entrances are mostly just doors on the façade of buildings with a small (M) sign on top. the RESO entrances have a similar sign which could be confusing.

In Toronto, you have holes in the ground.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

I like that our downtown station entrances are highly visible and inviting. They're bright, they have the big square light box with the station name and giant "O", the pole with the red donut.

In Montreal, downtown station entrances are mostly just doors on the façade of buildings with a small (M) sign on top. the RESO entrances have a similar sign which could be confusing.

In Toronto, you have holes in the ground.

I call them Lifesavers, because they're gonna be life savers during the winter.

[Truenorth00]

What's the word on Stage 2 East and West? Are they actually going to be ready to start construction as soon as Stage 1 ends?

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

What's the word on Stage 2 East and West? Are they actually going to be ready to start construction as soon as Stage 1 ends?

I believe the tender goes out this summer.

[eltodesukane]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

I just noticed from the renderings that many of the above-ground stations are not fully enclosed... going to be brutal in winter! Poor decision, imo.

Typical for Ottawa.
Of course, the 1%, the elites, the administrators, the decision-makers are not the ones waiting for the bus.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.430187,-7...s4lguDwPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&hl=en
Bus shelter on Rideau Street (http://spacing.ca/ottawa/2014/08/29/image-moment-meanest-bus-shelter-town/)

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

I'm still a little ticked that they named the station Parliament/Parlement. Just naming it O'Connor would have been so much simpler (and intuitive).

Yeah, I groaned when I saw the Parliament/Parlement station name as well. Names like that are so awkward. I wonder if the feds had any say in that?

I was hoping they could find a figurative name (perhaps Latinesque) like they often do in Ottawa - one that works in both languages.