YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[jmt18325]

https://twitter.com/AirCanada/status/869354536045096961

https://twitter.com/AirCanada/status/869410219960520704

[SpongeG]

I saw that tonight, I was on the sfpr, I wondered what was going on.

[Gordon]

There seems to be a new D pier Gate D59 . I didn't realize anything had been added at the end of the west chevron.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Gordon

There seems to be a new D pier Gate D59 . I didn't realize anything had been added at the end of the west chevron.

There's also new gate D60

[casper]

Originally Posted by nname

There's also new gate D60

Is that the gate where they would do the bus to hard stands from?

[vanlaw]

Given this thread has been fairly quiet lately... Saw an interesting series of events around 5 tonight. I was sitting at my desk downtown and saw a commercial aircraft coming over burrard inlet, directly over downtown. Rarely see that. Went to FR24, and it was LH476 coming in from MUC. It looks as though the landing/takeoff direction changed as it was about to loop around and approach from the west so it had to change course so it would approach from the east (sorry... Don't know the technical terms for the runways).

At the same time I was watching that on FR24, LH493 to FRA was taking off towards the east, and presumably for the same reason (takeoff landing direction change) did a big bank to the south, looped then headed straight north.

Anyway, was interesting to see two unusual things at the same time, both LH.

[Gordon]

According to Wikipedia gates D59 & E85 are bus gates to remote stands

I didn't realize YVR was busy enough to require remote stands

[YVR Bruce]

At the YVR AGM a couple of weeks ago, the CEO said the 2017 Summer peak would be 2 (jetway) gates short.

I trust YVR has made provision for the closest possible access to the immigration hall, allowing the shortest possible walk. E85 would be ok if that is isolated from the US preclearance area. D59 looks like a max walk - ok only for people like me who enjoy seeing what is tied up at the dock..

FRA does this to the point where it is preferable to have a remote gate, as the bus connection is at the heart of the terminal (e.g. on landing you get dropped close to the passport counter). So for those who don't delight in a working bus tour of the ramp, at least they get that perk.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by madog222

Any ideas what AC7169 is doing? Just saw it fly over in a high bank turn quite low with a fighter jet type plane flying in formation. Promotional photoshoot?
The 787-9 is in the new livery which looks great from the ground.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7169

Yeah, I saw them Monday night, too.

Found this:


PHOTO FLIGHT Air Canada's newest Boeing 787-9 heading out from Vancouver for a photo/video shoot with Wolfe Air Learjet #AC7169 📷@AirCanada pic.twitter.com/XYxUrwQLIH
https://twitter.com/hashtag/AC7169?src=hash

[Johnny Aussie]

http://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/facts-sheets/2017/april/traffic-update_april-2017.pdf?la=en

Domestic up 10.3%
International up 15.2%

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Total pax count up over 209,000 compared to April 2016.

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Int'l breakdown by sector:

Transborder up 13.9%
Asia Pacific up 18.2%
Europe up 4.5%
Misc Int'l up 27.2%

[osirisboy]

I apologize if this has been asked before but what would fall under "miscellaneous" and is transborder just the US?

Good to see Europe stop its loses

[Gordon]

accordng to Airliners.net YVR is using De-icing stands as hardstand locations.

I suspect for D59 & D60

[Cage]

Here is the Business in Vancouver article on yesterday's Saretsky speech to VBoT:https://www.biv.com/article/2017/6/westjet-seeks-government-permission-fly-china/

Some quotes from Biv

WestJet has filed for government approval to fly to China, CEO Gregg Saretsky told the Greater Vancouver Board of Trade (GVBOT) June 1.
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Executives had gone on record telling Business in Vancouver that flights between Vancouver and China would be a “natural” were the airline to buy those planes.

Curiously, Saretsky would not specify which Canadian cities his airline would first launch China-bound flights if it gained all necessary approvals.

“We’re going to keep that close to our vests,” he said. “Obviously, it is competitive and we wouldn’t want anybody else to do anything to maneuver their own capacity around to make our entry more difficult than it would otherwise be,” he said.

He would not speculate on how long the approval process could be but he said that it is possible that it could take until 2019.

Note: 2019 is when Beijing Daxing Airport is expected to open. It is widely expected there will be no new frequencies on the bilateral until 2019.

Saretsky showed a map of the world to the GVBOT audience with potential future routes stemming out of cities, such as Vancouver, to Sydney, Australia; Auckland, New Zealand; and New Delhi, India.

Saretsky would not reveal what non-Chinese long-haul routes he would prioritize but said the key would be for the route to make money.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by Gordon

According to Wikipedia gates D59 & E85 are bus gates to remote stands

I didn't realize YVR was busy enough to require remote stands

E85 is reasonably close to both USCBP and CBSA that its okay for a bus gate.

D59 however is the worst possible location. I agree with the poster upthread, what make FRA bus gates the preferable option is that they are close to customs and arrival facilities.

Ideally YVR should have created a bus terminal where the ULD container yard is beside gate 53. that would be a n awesome location. Extra points if they make arrival corridor into CBSA so that pax don't have to climb mount Olympus just to see the totem poles.

[trofirhen]

I wish Westjet would take the plunge and do Vancouver >< São Paulo.
Several years back, Johnny mentioned how surprised and pleased he was at the level of O&D traffic between Vancouver and Brazil.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Gordon

According to Wikipedia gates D59 & E85 are bus gates to remote stands

I didn't realize YVR was busy enough to require remote stands

So, AC's flight to FRA starts today (departs 12:25pm). Remote stand in action?

12:25 D59 CZ378 Guangzhou
13:20 D59 MU582 Shanghai

Seems like AC's new flight to NGO and resumption of KIX tomorrow, and the launch of TPE next week would push more planes into remote stand

[casper]

Originally Posted by nname

So, AC's flight to FRA starts today (departs 12:25pm). Remote stand in action?

12:25 D59 CZ378 Guangzhou
13:20 D59 MU582 Shanghai

Seems like AC's new flight to NGO and resumption of KIX tomorrow, and the launch of TPE next week would push more planes into remote stand

Must make for some interesting negotiat ions to see who goes to the remote stand. Would have thought would be the smallest aircraft.

[Gordon]

WE may even see Gate E85 remote stand go into use.

[Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Cage

Here is the Business in Vancouver article on yesterday's Saretsky speech to VBoT:https://www.biv.com/article/2017/6/westjet-seeks-government-permission-fly-china/

Some quotes from Biv


Saretsky showed a map of the world to the GVBOT audience with potential future routes stemming out of cities, such as Vancouver, to Sydney, Australia; Auckland, New Zealand; and New Delhi, India.

Saretsky would not reveal what non-Chinese long-haul routes he would prioritize but said the key would be for the route to make money.

Personally, I'd love to see WS add DEL out of YVR, even at the expense of the current AC flight. Add in a codeshare agreement with one of India's better budget carriers (ideally Indigo, but even Spicejet) and you could connect to a substantial amount of transfer traffic on both ends.

On another (somewhat related) note, I had my first opportunity to fly with one of the ME3 a couple of weeks ago (Etihad from ORD-AUH-BOM). It's definitely a quality airline, even in Economy, and their massive upcoming new terminal in AUH looks very impressive (at least from the outside). The transfer experience at the current digs in AUH is more than adequate, although not nearly as nice as YVR. I know we're not likely to see EY at YVR anytime soon, but they would be a welcome addition if/when the bilateral is renegotiated and they decide to strike out beyond YYZ. They also seem to differ from Emirates in the model of flying mega-jets to every possible airport, as EY only currently serve 6 routes with their A380s and have just 2 more on order (according to their inflight magazine).

[mezzanine]

AC to nagoya and FRA from YVR today





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