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Old Posted May 28, 2017, 12:44 AM
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This might not be a popular viewpoint, but you are probably right, there really is no need for the RRI project at this point in time. Unless there is currently a developer looking specifically for a large plot of land near the downtown (for something like a convention center or arena), this project would be a huge, unnecessary expense right now. The downtown / transition area has enough vacant land and underutilized lots (just look at the massive amount of gravel parking lots between 13th and 15th) to easily satisfy the City’s high-rise needs for the next two decades if not more. It seems an expensive waste to massively expand the infrastructure footprint of the downtown to facilitate development which could occur on already serviced lots in the existing downtown/transition area. Regina's downtown doesn't need more infrastructure, it needs to replace and improve the crumbling infrastructure it already has.
Well your opinion will be popular with anyone who has a little common sense. Let's face it, this city is a bit of a joke. Council is run by a bunch of middle age white guys, who have no sense of foresight or vision. They are more concerned with keeping the status quo and appeasing their developer pals.

There is absolutely no way Regina can sustain what is essentially going to be a second downtown. If this project does go ahead, what you are going to see is complete collapse of downtown. Retail, pubs, and restaurants will close or move the rail yards and what you will be left with, is a bunch of empty storefronts and a total close-down of downtown after 5pm again.

Instead of fixing what's broken, this city loves to forget about the problems and start all over again brand new, while spending millions of dollars. Lets take the "City Square" for example. It's a complete failure. They could have easily renovated the Scarth Street Mall, and extended it to Victoria. I bet it would have cost half as much and would be used a lot more, especially by the Copper Kettle and Ohans. Now we have a Scarth Street Mall which is old and tired and half the bricks need replacing.

We also had to cater to all the football fans, by building a state of the art stadium and subsiding it through tax increases. The building can only be used at most half the year, but we all know it will only be used a handful of times. It also will not bring any economic value to the city. Just think what the city could have done with downtown for 278 million?? How about build a new central library and arts centre, which would have been used all year round.

Half the sidewalks downtown are falling apart, the boulevards are a compete disgrace, especially on Victoria. Have you even seen the boulevard in front of city hall?? It's pretty much non existent. They can't even level the block flowerbeds. And instead of requiring the Aboriginal Affairs office building on 11th and Albert to actually landscape the property, the owners are instead paving over the entire lot. I could go on and on.

In my opinion, the only thing the city had going for itself was Wascana Park. Now they are even paving that over to help out their corporate buddies.
     
     
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Old Posted May 28, 2017, 12:59 AM
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This might not be a popular viewpoint, but you are probably right, there really is no need for the RRI project at this point in time. Unless there is currently a developer looking specifically for a large plot of land near the downtown (for something like a convention center or arena), this project would be a huge, unnecessary expense right now. The downtown / transition area has enough vacant land and underutilized lots (just look at the massive amount of gravel parking lots between 13th and 15th) to easily satisfy the City’s high-rise needs for the next two decades if not more. It seems an expensive waste to massively expand the infrastructure footprint of the downtown to facilitate development which could occur on already serviced lots in the existing downtown/transition area. Regina's downtown doesn't need more infrastructure, it needs to replace and improve the crumbling infrastructure it already has.
There are a few problems that the railyard lands could solve if done right. First, all that vacant land in the downtown is not necessarily in the hands of people who want or have the resources to develop. For those lucky enough to own surface lots, they are so lucrative that there is no incentive that the City could give to change use (Winnipeg is offering up to 22 years of tax incentive and it is still not enough). Opening up this land may give real developers an opportunity to build on land adjacent to the downtown that is not currently available.

Second, the rail yard lands will be properly zoned and serviced for their intended forms of development, the same can't be said for downtown and the areas surrounding it. This means that the risks of development are better known and lower.

Third NIMBYs won't be much of an issue, they mostly aren't in downtown but in the surrounding neighbourhoods, watch out.

If the city is smart they will go slow on the development, insisting that land sales result in immediate development, and insisting that the design and quality of the development is reflective of vision. The Forks is a good model in that by the time it is 'complete' it will have taken 50 years. I know everyone is in a much bigger hurry than that, but a 50 year timeline is consistent with how cities naturally grow....
     
     
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Old Posted May 28, 2017, 1:27 AM
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There are a few problems that the railyard lands could solve if done right. First, all that vacant land in the downtown is not necessarily in the hands of people who want or have the resources to develop. For those lucky enough to own surface lots, they are so lucrative that there is no incentive that the City could give to change use (Winnipeg is offering up to 22 years of tax incentive and it is still not enough). Opening up this land may give real developers an opportunity to build on land adjacent to the downtown that is not currently available.

Second, the rail yard lands will be properly zoned and serviced for their intended forms of development, the same can't be said for downtown and the areas surrounding it. This means that the risks of development are better known and lower.

Third NIMBYs won't be much of an issue, they mostly aren't in downtown but in the surrounding neighbourhoods, watch out.

If the city is smart they will go slow on the development, insisting that land sales result in immediate development, and insisting that the design and quality of the development is reflective of vision. The Forks is a good model in that by the time it is 'complete' it will have taken 50 years. I know everyone is in a much bigger hurry than that, but a 50 year timeline is consistent with how cities naturally grow....
The city is not known for making developers stick to area master plans. If you recall, Harvard did not like the restrictions that would have to be placed on tower 3 due to the Downtown master plan. Well all they had to do is pay the city a fine of $400,000. Problem solved.
     
     
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Old Posted May 28, 2017, 10:12 PM
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I absolutely agree with many of the concerns regarding the railyards and existing downtown. Lots of hard work ahead to shape and steer things in the right direction to get the city we want. Sure would love to see some of you put your hat in the ring to get involved on some level. Warehouse District Board has some openings.
     
     
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Old Posted May 28, 2017, 11:04 PM
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I also think that the railyards should sit empty. Focus on the existing downtown for denser development, and save the railyards for a dream project when the time is right (massive convention centre, new hockey arena, etc). Otherwise you will just kill the existing downtown that is barely able to stand on its own legs.
     
     
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Old Posted May 29, 2017, 8:16 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/05/25/andrew-scheer-tory-leadership-race-2017_n_16807094.html
Andrew Scheer, 'Consensus Candidate,' Hopes The Nice Guy Finishes First In Tory Leadership


Posted: 05/25/2017 5:09 pm EDT Updated: 05/28/2017 7:15 am EDT
In a series of interviews, the four-time MP from Regina–Qu'Appelle noted how, hoping to earn their endorsements, he approached some of the candidates who hadn’t attracted much fundraising support. One day maybe a Prime Minister living in Regina that would be a first
     
     
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Old Posted May 29, 2017, 9:41 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/05/25/andrew-scheer-tory-leadership-race-2017_n_16807094.html
Andrew Scheer, 'Consensus Candidate,' Hopes The Nice Guy Finishes First In Tory Leadership


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In a series of interviews, the four-time MP from Regina–Qu'Appelle noted how, hoping to earn their endorsements, he approached some of the candidates who hadn’t attracted much fundraising support. One day maybe a Prime Minister living in Regina that would be a first
It'll take a bit of work to topple Prince Albert as the Saskatchewan Prime Ministerial juggernaut... 27 years & 3 PMs elected there.
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Old Posted May 31, 2017, 4:28 AM
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Did anyone have a chance to see the open house for the railyards development? I've been anxious all day to see it, but still nothing online

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Did anyone have a chance to see the open house for the railyards development? I've been anxious all day to see it, but still nothing online

Thanks!
https://twitter.com/Blake_Lough/status/869738849143898112
     
     
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Old Posted May 31, 2017, 5:11 AM
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Old Posted May 31, 2017, 5:49 AM
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Thank you Stormer!
     
     
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Old Posted May 31, 2017, 6:51 PM
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Until June 12, the city is taking online feedback on the railyards plan.

http://www.reginarevitalization.ca/raily...wall-centre-today-or-take-online-survey/
     
     
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Old Posted May 31, 2017, 7:47 PM
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Until June 12, the city is taking online feedback on the railyards plan.

http://www.reginarevitalization.ca/raily...wall-centre-today-or-take-online-survey/
But why do they refuse to post the actual info online? What is this game they are playing where all disclosure has to be in person. Is there a plan to limit public engagement? Very curious.
     
     
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Old Posted May 31, 2017, 8:13 PM
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Why 20 floors??!!!! (As opposed to 30.)
     
     
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Why 20 floors??!!!! (As opposed to 30.)
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Old Posted Jun 1, 2017, 12:46 AM
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Why 20 floors??!!!! (As opposed to 30.)
Yes, why 20 floors? And is this 20 office floors, or 20 apartment/condo floors? Why isn't there just a height limit instead?
     
     
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Why 20 floors??!!!! (As opposed to 30.)
Likely because 30 would take the area above downtown (if built to maximum).
     
     
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Likely because 30 would take the area above downtown (if built to maximum).
They think this is a brilliant strategy. We need to respect the low rise! Thanks Toronto consultants!

     
     
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Old Posted Jun 1, 2017, 2:47 AM
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Did any of you go to the public forum last night?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 1, 2017, 1:24 PM
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http://leaderpost.com/news/local-news/ra...ng-and-a-game-changer-says-mayor-fougere
Railyard concept plan 'exciting' and a 'game-changer', says Mayor Fougere

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“We are one of the few cities in Canada that has, in its core, a blank piece of land,” Fougere said. “Most cities have already done that and made their choices. We have the chance to craft and build what people want to see. It is exciting to me. I can’t think of any other city in Canada with this opportunity.”

Astring agreed that Regina has a chance to be the envy of Canada.

“What city in North America has an opportunity for a parcel of land like that,” he said. “If they can pull this off, we will be the envy of the country for having land available to us.”
     
     
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