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Seems about the going rate for the area. 215 Lakeshore just sold for $165 million and it's probably a little smaller than both sites combined but in a less prime location.

On a side note, check out the return on investment Castlepoint got at that address.

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That's the lot behind the Daniels sales office correct? According to all of the early renders of the area they plan on putting in a tower around the same height as Lighthouse Tower. Though that was a while back those renders were shown and anything could have changed now.
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If all goes according to plan, it will be part of one of the densest strips in the city.

Speculation can pay off if you have the millions to spare or are willing to wait 20 years.
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Greenland paid too much. What exactly do they want to build there? Copy of the Wuhan Greenland Centre?
     
     
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Seems about the going rate for the area. 215 Lakeshore just sold for $165 million and it's probably a little smaller than both sites combined but in a less prime location.

On a side note, check out the return on investment Castlepoint got at that address.

End of 1995 is exactly when things bottomed out the last time. The one before 1147390 probably was forced in a situation to sell. They for sure paid several times as much before the bust.
     
     
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Greenland paid too much. What exactly do they want to build there? Copy of the Wuhan Greenland Centre?
What they are planning here isn't gonna make a lot of height fanboys happy.
     
     
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The first dude made off like a scamp.
First guy: 17.6%/yr above inflation
Second guy: 55.7%/yr above inflation
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What they are planning here isn't gonna make a lot of height fanboys happy.
That sucks...
     
     
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55s x 3 sounds about right here.
     
     
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Old Posted May 3, 2017, 11:37 PM
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And as if by magic .................

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/215...riri-pontarini.20950/page-2#post-1219688

Not final design - 48/49 floors - not even cracking the top 50

     
     
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I thought they'd be pushing for max density given the price they paid for it. If it was somewhere around 3 buildings at 30 floors each ~10,000 SF floorplate, that's like $185 PSF of buildable space just for the land. Not leaving yourself much of a margin after $250+ PSF in construction costs.

Edit: That render looks more like what I was expecting, maximizing that lot to the last SF
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Ugh what a mess. Better hook them up with the HP(A) sauce team please! The area needs red brick ... hey maybe it's time I open sketchup again?
     
     
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ditto ... ugh what a mess.
     
     
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Ugh what a mess. Better hook them up with the HP(A) sauce team please! The area needs red brick ... hey maybe it's time I open sketchup again?
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This early in the process I'm not worried yet... things will change from this early concept.

On another topic, Vaughan is on fire lately... a 2nd 55 storey tower was announced at Transit City. That's now four 150+ metre towers proposed in a month!
     
     
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Thank god that's only a concept.
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Old Posted May 4, 2017, 5:22 AM
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They could easily fit four tall 8000 sq ft floor plate balcony towers on that site which would meet the minimum separation guidelines. A quick sketch to show what I mean:


I suspect the real proposal is for 3 much taller towers.
     
     
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