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Old Posted Jul 14, 2016, 11:12 AM
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2016, 12:16 PM
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A shame to loose the log cabin. Second in size only to Montebelo. Or so I was told.
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2016, 4:58 PM
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In related news, Trailhead's moving sale is on now. I've heard they're relocating later in the Summer to the Fairlawn Centre, across Carling from the Carlingwood Mall. Too bad they can't take the building with them
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2016, 5:17 PM
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Colonnade BridgePort is proposing to construct a 22-storey (74 metres) mixed-use building. Specifically, the building would consist of the following elements:
  • Ground floor – retail use of approximately 1,010 m² gross floor area (GFA). The ground floor of the building will include a lobby, loading area, and garbage room.
  • Floors 2 through 6 – office use of approximately 6,889 m² GFA. These floors are proposed to be designed as a cantilever over the ground floor retail.
  • Floor 7 - amenity space for the residential units.
  • Floors 8 through 22 – residential uses of approximately 120 units (60 one-bedroom and 60 two bedroom units), in the form of rental apartments.

The proposed development would consist of 34 surface parking spaces on the west side of the property and 8 bicycle parking spaces primarily to serve the retail uses on the ground floor. Additional parking will be provided by a two-level underground parking garage with approximately 125 parking spaces, which includes visitor parking, and 92 bicycle parking spaces. In addition to parking, the underground garage will include storage units, a hydro vault, and the mechanical and electrical rooms for the building. The underground garage is anticipated to be built to the edge of the property limits and connected to 319 McRae Avenue. In total, there would be 159 parking spaces (34 + 125) and 100 bicycle parking spaces (8 + 92). The site would have vehicular access from Scott Street and McRae Avenue while the loading area would only be accessed from Scott Street.

The design provides for an outdoor patio area of approximately 164 m² at the corner of Scott Street and McRae Avenue. Landscaping along Scott Street and McRae Avenue will provide a natural buffer from Scott Street and McRae Avenue.

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Old Posted Jul 14, 2016, 6:31 PM
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I may have asked this before, but under what circumstances could the hydro towers be replaced? It just seems like there's so much land being wasted for them.

Instead of building all this hardscaping, asphalt surface parking, they could turn it into a leafy linear park. Something like like this or this.

Otherwise, as sad as I would be to see Trailhead go, the proposal is actually really nice. Rental apartments right beside a transit station and within walking distance to two grocery stores. Retail (well, 2 spots) and offices. I think the various proposals along McCrae have the potential to make it a half decent street, unlike now.

Second question: because this building is rental only, how quickly would this building be built? Normally, condos require 60-80% to be sold, but if rental apartments only need a company to look after them, could this building start construction almost as soon as it is (hopefully) approved by Council? Or would we be looking at a very long wait?
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2016, 2:51 PM
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I may have asked this before, but under what circumstances could the hydro towers be replaced? It just seems like there's so much land being wasted for them.

Instead of building all this hardscaping, asphalt surface parking, they could turn it into a leafy linear park. Something like like this or this.

Otherwise, as sad as I would be to see Trailhead go, the proposal is actually really nice. Rental apartments right beside a transit station and within walking distance to two grocery stores. Retail (well, 2 spots) and offices. I think the various proposals along McCrae have the potential to make it a half decent street, unlike now.

Second question: because this building is rental only, how quickly would this building be built? Normally, condos require 60-80% to be sold, but if rental apartments only need a company to look after them, could this building start construction almost as soon as it is (hopefully) approved by Council? Or would we be looking at a very long wait?
Assuming they have cash on hand or financing lined up, you can expect them to start as soon as they think it makes business sense to do so. Bridgeport Colonnade do seem to actually build what they propose, so good news!
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2016, 9:11 AM
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Trailhead's FB page says they're moving to across Carlingwood mall this coming Sept.

Also saw a Reddit rumour that a Farm boy will move in to the new podium.
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Trailhead's FB page says they're moving to across Carlingwood mall this coming Sept.

Also saw a Reddit rumour that a Farm boy will move in to the new podium.
Farm Boy just moved in next door. Opened a few weeks back I believe.
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Farm Boy just moved in next door. Opened a few weeks back I believe.
I live around the corner and just got back from that excellent Farm Boy 5 minutes ago
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Losing the existing building is definitely going to hurt.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2016, 2:57 PM
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Someone I met in the neighbourhood (who seemed very well-informed about the development) told me that the Trailhead building was being disassembled, to be reassembled resembling its current form somewhere else in the Ottawa-Gatineau area. That would be great.
Was he out to lunch?
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The building is a pretty simple post-and-beam structure, it wouldn't be that hard to do. There's a lot of valuable material in it, and it would look great elsewhere — maybe they'll use it to spruce up their Adventure Centre out on Carp Road? That place kinda needs it.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2016, 3:51 AM
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Farm Boy just moved in next door. Opened a few weeks back I believe.
I heard a rumour that Trailhead's foundations were damaged when they built the building that houses this new Farm Boy.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2017, 9:49 PM
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recommended for approval
http://ottwatch.ca/meetings/PLC/6976

Ward Councillor is opposed - 2 public comments in favour 57 against
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/sal...awa-planning-committee-1.4034704?cmp=rss
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2017, 12:33 AM
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Salvation Army wins committee approval for new Barrhaven church

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: March 28, 2017 | Last Updated: March 28, 2017 5:37 PM EDT


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The committee also approved several key developments, including:
  • Westgate Shopping Centre redevelopment: Five mixed-use towers between Carling Avenue and Highway 417, ranging in height from 24 to 36 storeys.
  • 1960 Scott St.: A 22-storey tower with ground-floor retail, five floors of office space and rental apartments, replacing the iconic timber building formerly home to Trailhead Paddle Shack
  • Embassy West: This site at 1400 Carling Ave. currently has a five-storey retirement home, originally built as a hotel. The applicant wants to add two new towers, 10 storeys and 12 storeys; the 12-storey tower would feature an amenity room above the 12th storey.
  • 125 Marketplace Dr. and 101A Lindenshade Dr.: Minto wants to build a retirement home complex consisting of two buildings — eight storeys and nine storeys — on the vacant site located within the South Nepean Town Centre.
  • 47 Havelock St.: Surface Developments wants to build a new four-storey condo building with 23 units.

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Old Posted Apr 12, 2017, 11:21 PM
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Proposed 22-storey tower on Scott Street worries councillor

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 12, 2017 | Last Updated: April 12, 2017 4:32 PM EDT




Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper made a last-ditch appeal to council Wednesday to reject a spot-rezoning proposal for a 22-storey tower at 1960 Scott St., which will replace the iconic timber building formerly home to Trailhead Paddle Shack.

The site is currently zoned for a maximum of six storeys. Approving such a large leap in height left Leiper worried the city is “setting a new planning context for the entire area without an honest and transparent discussion with residents about their neighbourhood is likely to change.”

But Mayor Jim Watson scoffed at the councillor’s concerns, and added he was disappointed some members of council who are “great advocates for transit-oriented development, cycling and pedestrian-friendly cities voted against a project that is right across a street from a transit station of the LRT.”

“If we’re not going to have density right across the street from a transit station, where are we going to have it?” the mayor said.

Proximity to rapid transit is part of what sold city planners on the request for additional height, which is why providing more commercial and residential parking spaces than required in four levels of underground parking rubs Leiper and others the wrong way.

“You’re not going to have everyone taking the train,” Watson said. “But if we can encourage more people to leave their car at home or not even buy a car in the first place, and they walk literally a couple of metres across the street to an LRT station, that’s better for the environment, it’s better for transportation, it’s better for the economy.”

In addition to Leiper, councillors Riley Brockington, David Chernushenko, Diane Deans, Mathieu Fleury, Catherine McKenney and Tobi Nussbaum voted against the proposal.

Council also approved the following development applications:
  • Westgate Shopping Centre redevelopment: Five mixed-use towers between Carling Avenue and Highway 417, ranging in height from 24 to 36 storeys.
  • Embassy West: This site at 1400 Carling Ave. currently has a five-storey retirement home, originally built as a hotel. The applicant wants to add two new towers, 10 storeys and 12 storeys; the 12-storey tower would feature an amenity room above the 12th storey.
  • 125 Marketplace Dr. and 101A Lindenshade Dr.: Minto wants to build a retirement home complex consisting of two buildings — eight storeys and nine storeys — on the vacant site located within the South Nepean Town Centre.
  • 47 Havelock St.: Surface Developments wants to build a new four-storey condo building with 23 units.

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http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news...tower-on-scott-street-worries-councillor
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“If we’re not going to have density right across the street from a transit station, where are we going to have it?” the mayor said.
This line from the mayor makes me very happy
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Proximity to rapid transit is part of what sold city planners on the request for additional height, which is why providing more commercial and residential parking spaces than required in four levels of underground parking rubs Leiper and others the wrong way.

“You’re not going to have everyone taking the train,” Watson said. “But if we can encourage more people to leave their car at home or not even buy a car in the first place, and they walk literally a couple of metres across the street to an LRT station, that’s better for the environment, it’s better for transportation, it’s better for the economy.”
If the city was serious about TOD, they would change the parking requirements for TOD developments and set reasonable maximums for the number of reserved, tenant parking spaces. By making tenant parking a scarce commodity, the cost for a reserved spot will go up, discouraging those who don't plan on using transit from living there, and encouraging those who do.

Its a bit different for visitor and retail parking, but even then you want a sufficient but not excessive amount of parking. Optimally you want enough that people can find a spot most of the time without circling for hours, but not so much that the lot is usually mostly empty (a tough balance to predict). I am not sure what type of retail is planned, but it is unlikely to have seasonal rushes like malls do.
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This line from the mayor makes me very happy
I don't agree with Jim Watson on much any more, but this was good of him to say.
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