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Flyingwedge · #**41121** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 3:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

Where was Vine and Vermont in those Los Angeles Herald ads? Hoover and Forrester is a mystery to me too.

Today, if you go south on Union Avenue and cross Hoover, you're on 24th Street. In 1894, you'd be on Forrester, then Vine:

1894 Sanborn @ ProQuest via LAPL

Hollywood Graham · #**41122** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 4:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

WigWag and Sheb Wooley say Dewey's Purrple Power gas pumps were particularly poised to be as popular as peppermint with police who patroled to keep the peace in parks and parking lots as featured in the following photos. Some parched patrolmen may have presumably partaken of Pepsi, Dr. Pepper or other brands of pop, with pasta, all from the Piggly Wiggly, while pointing at Pacific-bred Portuguese Man 'O War from the Santa Monica Pier. What the police planned at the Pico precinct before pounding the pavement toward San Pedro is possibly the subject of another post.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p15799coll170/id/29583

11520 Washington Boulevard, Dewey's Garage.

The pressure is ON.

GoogleSVU

Henderson Excelsior KJ4

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c6/38/1d/c6381d97023bf1d708c47d79b0f91443.jpg

1931 - Last year for a bona fide beauty

http://www.opp.ca/museum/assets/images/vehicles/henderson/henderson-02.jpg http://www.opp.ca/museum/vehicles-henderson.php

There is a 1932 movie Officer 13 on You Tube that has two motor cops on Henderson. The Henderson's have a unique sound to them. The movie has some good footage of early L.A..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ao9VB4rlk

Flyingwedge · #**41123** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 4:55 AM**

This looks south from South Venice Blvd. on November 5, 1929, at The Shore, 2209 Ocean Front Walk.
The L. A. County Assessor says it was built in 1910/1920:

486575 @ Huntington Digital Library

October 2015:

GSV

tovangar2 · #**41124** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 8:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

Today, if you go south on Union Avenue and cross Hoover, you're on 24th Street. In 1894, you'd be on Forrester, then Vine:

Thank you for finding that FW.

What a wealth of small streets we've lost. I now have Fan Palm Avenue to regret.

HossC · #**41125** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 1:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location.

A few years back I found this series of four original negatives dated 1964. (they're a bit blurry

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This one seems unrelated, but it was included in the group of four.

#4

ebay

No great mystery with this one - the photographer was on E Commercial Street. The view below is also from 1964.

Historic Aerials

Structures built on the site of the Taix Restaurant and gas station since 1964 prevent a view of City Hall from that location today.

Google Maps

MichaelRyerson · #**41126** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 3:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I don't believe we've seen this amazing photograph on NLA.

Construction worker with Los Angeles City Hall. [no date]

http://www.imgrum.org/media/1257497809428129966_3070464841

Anyone know which building he's working on?

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Frank McGuire tops out the Federal Courthouse, 1938

Frank McGuire, member of the crew installing elevators in the new Federal Courthouse, takes time to pose in front of the nearby City Hall tower in the favorite manner of structural steelworkers the world over.

ethereal_reality · #**41127** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 5:16 PM**

I never thought we'd know the man's name!

Thanks MR.

MichaelRyerson · #**41128** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 5:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I never thought we'd know the man's name!

Thanks MR.

It's what we do, right e-r?

ethereal_reality · #**41129** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 6:35 PM**

Yep.

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'mystery' location

"View of Montgomery Ward store in California."

ebay

Saturday, October 3, 1941 Los Angeles

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larger view

It appears to be a pretty impressive building. I hope it's still standeing.

HossC · #**41130** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 7:00 PM**

I've got a mystery Julius Shulman location today, and there's only one picture to go on. It's "Job 109: Carl Maston, Apartments, 1947".

Getty Research Institute

Does anyone recognize the apartments? They may not be in Los Angeles.

ethereal_reality · #**41131** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 7:12 PM**

ebay

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Originally Posted by HossC

The photographer was on E Commercial Street. The view below is also from 1964.

Historic Aerials

Thanks Hoss. Any clues about the other three?
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http://ellenbloom.blogspot.com/2017/02/pre-valentines-day-dinner-at-taix.html

As most of you know, we've seen TAIX numerous times over the years on NLA.

Here's a quick rehash for newcomers.

Here's a view from 1954.

lapl

Here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5459830&postcount=5084

And from the opposite side in 1964(?)

lapl

FredH
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5460773&postcount=5089

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TAIX is still in business at 1911 Sunset Boulevard.

It's located in the former Botwin's building.

ebway

Here's an even earlier ad for Botwin's. (I love this so much I just had to post it again.

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And here's the other half of the ad that shows the Lindbergh Beacon atop Los Angeles City Hall.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5640353&postcount=6981

Okay, I'll give it a rest. Thanks for listening folks.

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HossC · #**41132** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 7:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location

"View of Montgomery Ward store in California."

ebay

Saturday, October 3, 1941 Los Angeles

That looks very like the Montgomery Ward building in Fort Worth, TX. At least the airship is the USS Los Angeles! The picture is dated by the source as 1928.

blog.airshipventures.com

The building still stands, by the original entrance has been removed during remodeling. In fact, only the top two stories survive in the center section. Here's a close-up from the 1949 flood. Was there a sister building in LA?

Martin Pal · #**41133** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 7:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

ebay

Saturday, October 3, 1941 Los Angeles

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Not to be picky, just accurate:

oldstuff · #**41134** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 8:23 PM**

The First United Methodist Church can still be found at 134 N Kenwood Street, Glendale. As the exterior still looks quite similar to the Shulman photos (I think the pools have gone), I thought I'd post an aerial "now" shot.

Google Maps[/QUOTE]

The older building behind the single story one was their education building. I had a friend in the mid-60's who attended that church and their Youth Group, which I believe, met on Wednesday nights, would meet on the top floor of that building. They called their meeting and group "The Fifth Floor"

tovangar2 · #**41135** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 8:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

As most of you know, we've seen TAIX numerous times over the years on NLA.

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A LAT article gives a little more history (although the Taix family claims Marius came to Los Angeles "around 1870"):

"When Marius Taix, a baker from the Hautes Alpes of France, arrived in 1882, he bought a small lot on Commercial Street for $10,000, opened Taix French Bread Bakery and began catering to the 4,000 French who by then lived in the area.

The building survived until 1913, when it was torn down. Taix built the Champ d'Or Hotel on the site, and leased a restaurant on the first floor to a tenant.

"In 1927--at the height of Prohibition--federal agents and Taix's pharmacist son confronted the restaurant's operator for selling alcohol on the property. The angry restaurateur tossed the young Taix the keys and told him to "do it yourself."

The Taix French Restaurant was born.

In celebrating its opening, the same federal agents toasted the son's new profession with wine that he had purchased for "medicinal purposes."

The restaurant served its last specialite de la maison at that location in 1964, when the city paid $412,000 for the property that eventually became the Metropolitan Detention Center. Ten adjacent buildings also were demolished, two of which dated to the 1880s."

The same article notes:

"It all came together in the 1830s, when immigrant Jean Louis Vignes--forced to leave France because of his philandering and politics--arrived in Los Angeles from Bordeaux. He brought with him the grapevine cuttings that he used to establish a 100-acre vineyard called El Aliso, just south of what is now Union Station."

"Philandering and politics"? I wish I knew more.

And would you look at that, a Jeepster:

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

lapl

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hemmings

CityBoyDoug · #**41136** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 8:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's a view from 1954.

lapl

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I went with my family for dinner at TAIX in the late 1950s. It was a strange place...rather dark inside.

The seating was long picnic tables where you sat with strangers. The food was served ''family style'' from large bowls and plates. You passed the large serving plates from person to person, each taking what you wanted.
Cabbage, sliced beef, lamb, potato soup and French rolls...things like that...tasty. Farm dinner food....not classic French cuisine.

We only went there one time. I'm sure the place did not appeal to my parents. The place had been recommended to us by my aunt. Once was enough.

Earl Boebert · #**41137** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 9:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I went with my family for dinner at TAIX in the late 1950s. It was a strange place...rather dark inside.

The seating was long picnic tables where you sat with strangers. The food was served ''family style'' from large bowls and plates. You passed the large serving plates from person to person, each taking what you wanted.
Cabbage, sliced beef, soup and French rolls...things like that. Farm dinner food....not classic French cuisine.

We only went there one time. I'm sure the place did not appeal to my parents. The place had been recommended to us by my aunt. Once was enough.

Basque restaurants operate on the same system. If you are ever in sheepherding country, look for places named the "Star Hotel." Chances are it'll be a Basque operation. And good :-)

Cheers,

Earl

CityBoyDoug · #**41138** Posted **Apr 11, 2017, 12:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Earl Boebert

Basque restaurants operate on the same system. If you are ever in sheepherding country, look for places named the "Star Hotel." Chances are it'll be a Basque operation. And good :-)

Cheers,

Earl

Yes Earl the food was good. TAIX also had the atmosphere of socialism and revolutionaries. I got the feeling that anarchists met there for meetings....

ethereal_reality · #**41139** Posted **Apr 11, 2017, 12:39 AM**

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"Contessa Entellina Society in Los Angeles California, likely Griffith Park, 1925."

http://leobuscaglia.org/2015-report-to-contributors/contributors-3/

The Italian American Museum isn't 100% sure this is Griffith Park.
I thought one of you fine sleuths might recognize this picnic shelter. (it doesn't look familiar to me)

Griffith Park caption from here:
https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute...ith-park-circa-1925/0AGPiVbqL0jlFw?hl=en

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ethereal_reality · #**41140** Posted **Apr 11, 2017, 1:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

After watching the video you linked, E_R, I started looking at several other Pacific Ocean Park videos, too.

I found this one that shows the same thing as your link, but it's in color at around the 4:20 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyvLBKK-nWU

Thanks for the heads-up Martin.

I realize everyone is pretty much over my diving bell fixation

...but here's the color view that Martin mentioned.

screen-grab

And may I add....

This snapshot

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/479703797782916783/

This is supposedly 'Playland' in San Francisco but I'm not so sure.

As you can see it was a much smaller diving bell. (and it appears to have been located in the swimming area!?)

OK, I'm done.
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