Saskatoon Construction II

[EpicPonyTime]

Originally Posted by Brutopian

Saskatoon third-fastest growing city in Canada: census 2016

By Staff The Canadian Press
Feb 8, 2017

New census data shows the population of the metropolitan area of Saskatoon outpaced the national growth rate over the last five years.

Statistics Canada released the first batch of numbers from the 2016 census on Wednesday and the population of what the government agency refers to as the census metropolitan area of Saskatoon increased by 12.5 per cent since the last census in 2011.

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Read more:
http://globalnews.ca/news/3235241/saskatoon-third-fastest-growing-city-in-canada-census-2016/

I'm surprised the estimates were off by a couple thousand. They've been saying the CMA is over 300,000 for years now and apparently we haven't even hit it yet!

Also, Warman grew by 55% and is now home to over 11,000 people. That's insane. Martensville is the little brother now.

Originally Posted by dsmmace

The public that voted on the design decided to pay more to get a replica. There were less expensive options including a cable supported bridge with less pillars proposed.

Better a replica than a half-assed bridge they'd try to pass off as "signature".

[ToonTownRob]

SaskHealth, who issues the health cards amongst other things are the ones who say the population is higher than Statistics Canada. They never agree. I suspect the local figure is more accurate however, as people are much more motivated to be able to see a doctor than they are to fill out a census form, no matter what the law says.

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by EpicPonyTime

Also, Warman grew by 55% and is now home to over 11,000 people. That's insane. Martensville is the little brother now.

I was really surprised at the growth difference between Warman and Martensville as reported by the census. Martensville has significantly more commercial development than Warman, so I would have expected the population figures to somewhat mirror that.

[Echoes]

Originally Posted by ToonTownRob

SaskHealth, who issues the health cards amongst other things are the ones who say the population is higher than Statistics Canada. They never agree. I suspect the local figure is more accurate however, as people are much more motivated to be able to see a doctor than they are to fill out a census form, no matter what the law says.

There's a lot of discussion in the Stats Canada thread in the Canada forum about how the census typically under reports. Stats Canada's own most recent estimate of the CMA was 305,000.

If I understand correctly, there's some correction that goes on with the census numbers following their initial release.

[jigglysquishy]

I calculated the provincial undercount to be 46,966 by comparing the Q2 provincial quarterly estimate (April 1 2016) to the census (May 10 2016). While there's a 40 day difference, it's the best method for figuring it out.

The trouble comes when you try to figure out the undercount for Saskatoon and Regina. 94% of growth in the province took place within the Regina and Saskatoon metro areas so the undercount for each area is likely around 18,500 in Regina and Saskatoon at 25,500.

In any case, the numbers don't add up and until we get official undercount numbers we're kinda hooped.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by ToonTownRob

SaskHealth, who issues the health cards amongst other things are the ones who say the population is higher than Statistics Canada. They never agree. I suspect the local figure is more accurate however, as people are much more motivated to be able to see a doctor than they are to fill out a census form, no matter what the law says.

I would agree this is true when a province has significant net in-migration. It may be the reverse when it is close to even or negative. If you move out of a province you are not going to bother letting SaskHealth know about it.

[kiwi4life]

Hi guys. I don't live in Saskatoon anymore, no live in Kelowna but still have information thru contacts... I don't know if anyone has notice but I guess there is/or will be another tower crane for a small job in university being done by wright with the help of Pagnotta.. will be a red wolf tower crane small one. Suppose to be going up this weekend I believe

[EpicPonyTime]

Originally Posted by Crisis

I was really surprised at the growth difference between Warman and Martensville as reported by the census. Martensville has significantly more commercial development than Warman, so I would have expected the population figures to somewhat mirror that.

Martensville has had more "big name" commercial development, such as the Canadian Tire and the chain restaurants, but Warman is far ahead in terms of local businesses and home-run businesses. They report the numbers in the local newspaper every quarter and Warman has been ahead pretty much since 2011.

I've always found it strange Martensville gets the commercial development it does given Warman has plans for a shopping centre immediately off of Highway 11. Highway access was a major factor in Canadian Tire setting up shop, but there's a highway with more traffic ten minutes to the east.

Still, very good growth all throughout the Saskatoon area. Warman and Martensville obviously lead but Osler, Dalmeny and Langham all had strong growth as well.

[Di Trut]

Originally Posted by EpicPonyTime

I've always found it strange Martensville gets the commercial development it does given Warman has plans for a shopping centre immediately off of Highway 11. Highway access was a major factor in Canadian Tire setting up shop, but there's a highway with more traffic ten minutes to the east.

I think it's an issue of highway visibility. Martensvilles commercial developments are easily visible from hwy 12, whereas in Warman only the golf course is visible from hwy 11, the big commercial spaces are going in behind the golf course.

[Echoes]

Among the improvements planned for Wanuskewin as part of its renewal plan as it vies for UNESCO World Heritage status is an expanded interpretive centre. Rendering was made available as part of yesterday's announcement:



http://globalnews.ca/news/3239763/wanusk...al-plan-announced-includes-a-bison-herd/

[prairieguy]

I am really excited about the overall plans for Wanuskewin and their ambitious pursuit of UNESCO status. I think there is no doubt about the historic/cultural value of Wanuskewin meeting UNESCO criteria, but in terms of the facility and programming that will be the challenge!

We often take visitors from out of province/country to Wanuskewin and I have to say I really miss their original exhibit area where you walked through the theatre/gallery area and different sounds and stories were triggered by your motion. The current displays are quite 'static' and working towards a more interactive experience is really smart and necessary.

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by Di Trut

I think it's an issue of highway visibility. Martensvilles commercial developments are easily visible from hwy 12, whereas in Warman only the golf course is visible from hwy 11, the big commercial spaces are going in behind the golf course.

I agree with regards to the visibility, however, I would still say that Martensville is ahead of Warman on the retail front on the basis of the Canadian Tire, Boston Pizza and McDonalds outlets that all went there rather than Warman. The 'new" Warman retail centre still has a number of empty CRU spaces and nothing has yet happened on the proposed retail centre to the north of the current one. I'm not aware of any significant retail operation that has selected Warman over Martensville, though I do acknowledge that Warman did have a Co-op grocery store before Martensville.

Not sure if this discussion belongs in this thread, but it's not exactly Saskatoon retail, so here we are.

[Oiler]

Originally Posted by Echoes

Among the improvements planned for Wanuskewin as part of its renewal plan as it vies for UNESCO World Heritage status is an expanded interpretive centre. Rendering was made available as part of yesterday's announcement:



http://globalnews.ca/news/3239763/wanusk...al-plan-announced-includes-a-bison-herd/

Wow, good for Waneskewin! Does anyone know if Douglas Cardinal is/will be involved? Or who helped with the concept plan/rendering?

[kiwi4life]

Another tower crane up for Saskatoon in university

[WoodlandCritter]

Originally Posted by Oiler

Wow, good for Waneskewin! Does anyone know if Douglas Cardinal is/will be involved? Or who helped with the concept plan/rendering?

I think it may be AODBT Architecture, they designed the original building. I don't know for sure, but thats my hunch.

Edit: Checked their website, those images of the addition are on there.

http://aodbt.com/project/wanuskewin-heritage-park/

[Fransaskois]

I find it quite interesting that with the city's focus on increasing the downtown population, it actually decreased since 2011 (2817 in 2011, 2791 in 2016). I'm sure that'll change with the construction of River Landing, but it's still a little disappointing.

http://globalnews.ca/map/3230030/

[macca]

perhaps that hasn't really been the city's focus

[casper]

Originally Posted by Fransaskois

I find it quite interesting that with the city's focus on increasing the downtown population, it actually decreased since 2011 (2817 in 2011, 2791 in 2016). I'm sure that'll change with the construction of River Landing, but it's still a little disappointing.

http://globalnews.ca/map/3230030/

There has been a growing trend toward vacant condos being held as investments in other cities. Not certain if it has hit Saskatoon yet?

[prairieguy]

Originally Posted by casper

There has been a growing trend toward vacant condos being held as investments in other cities. Not certain if it has hit Saskatoon yet?

As someone who has been looking for the last few years to move downtown (or Broadway area) I have noticed that condo fees have increased quite a bit. As an example, what appears to be a reasonably priced condo downtown may come with a hefty monthly $600 condo fee. That starts to make some of these properties a bit steep to maintain.

[Morogolus]

Originally Posted by Fransaskois

I find it quite interesting that with the city's focus on increasing the downtown population, it actually decreased since 2011 (2817 in 2011, 2791 in 2016). I'm sure that'll change with the construction of River Landing, but it's still a little disappointing.

http://globalnews.ca/map/3230030/

Pretty sure that was all just talk by Atchison. He did little to support infill development.