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Originally Posted by jmt18325
Hey cage, any idea when this year Westjet and Air Canada will be getting their first Max jets? And has anything changed with the 8/9 breakdown for Air Canada?
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The first max jets for both airlines will be max8s.
The AC fleet plan contemplates 18 max 8s to be delivered in 2017 and 2018. These 18 aircraft will be used to replace the oldest 320s that were delivered in 1988 & 89.
I expect AC will take delivery of their 2 max8 in December 2017 but not fly them until January 2018. Alternately, the aircraft will be used on YYZ-YUL during the Christmas break.
WS is always a bigger unknown for me (I have better contacts at AC). WS will have an easier time with max8 introduction as their pilots all ready fly the 737. My expectation is that WS will introduce their max8s into the regular 737-800 flight schedule.
The bigger reveal will bethis Thursday when the new AC livery will come out on 2 A321s and 1 788. Because the 321s are being repainted first, I expect that AC will take all 33 max8s first and then take 28 max9s.
A further option is that AC will accelerate their max delivery schedule. Boeing has all ready accelerated their delivery schedule for the max program, the first 12 max8 aircraft will be delivered 2 months early. However, pilot training requirements might make an accelerated delivery schedule very problematic.
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Originally Posted by Tobuz
To Cage's broader point ... 100% correct. Hainan check-in, when I've seen it, always seems a bit chaotic because the stanchioning and traffic flow at check-in seems poorly thought out and overwhelms the adjacent check-in areas. . Frankly, same goes for KLM -- even though they're in a better spot for a large volume of pax checking in. All of the overseas flights have (1) a big aircraft, (2) with high volumes of pax checking bags, (3) all at about the same time. That doesn't seem to have been considered in placing the airlines, and YYC seems to have mandated that all of the carriers go "stanchion lite" in the check-in area, resulting in large masses of people forming at the entrance to a small queue.
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The airport designed the terminal for maximum amount of automation and self service features. Consequently when the tenant airlines and their customers are not up to speed on computerized self serve processes, the terminal functionality starts to breakdown.
In HU and WG case, they don't have kiosk option. In the KLM case, their YYC origin customers have a strong preference for manual options. Further. KLM was supposed to have the self bag drop machines, but their computer interface equipment was only desgined to be used at the AMS hub. Although the same self bag drop machines used at YYC are also used at AMS, the interface to KLM back office systems doesn't work.