Great Canadian Skyline Thread II

[Rico Rommheim]

Originally Posted by logan5

Coming from Montreal, one might be disappointed in Vancouver's overall urban form. We have the density part down though. Maybe in 10 or 15 years when Chinatown and the DTES are complete neighbourhoods, someone from a bigger city back east will be impressed with Vancouver. The DTES is where our biggest concentration of historic buildings are, and for the last 50 years they have been wasting away. Take Queen Street away from Toronto or St. Denis away from Montreal. That's the importance of the DTES.

Coming from Montreal, I'm always astounded by vancouver's urban form. It's suburbs are dense and actually nice looking (try comparing Burnaby or North vancouver to laval or Longueuil), it's downtown and central neighbourhoods are clean and dense and the people are generally friendly and helpful. The elevated skytrain is a refreshing change to the underground metro and the connection to the ocean is fantastic.

For me Vancouver is particularly mind-blowing when you consider just how young the city is. Its stock of heritage commercial buildings and skyscrapers is surprising. I lived there for a year, and I was never once underwhelmed by its urban fabric. Sure, Montreal simply offers more in terms if urban density and culture and most everything else by virtue of its size, location and history, but not once did I ever consider Vancouver a lightweight. I left because of low-wages and high rent, and ironically the locals who had convinced me to move there have since themselves moved to Montreal or Calgary, but this doesn't take anything away from the city's impressive attributes.

And consider this: you arrive at YVR and hop into a skytrain that takes you DT in no time while offering sweeping views of the neighbourhoods and mountains, in Montreal you hop into a crowded shitty little STM bus and ride along congested highways that offer great views of desolate industrial parks and shitty little west-island bungalows. Vancouver just doesn't fail to impress.

[GreaterMontréal]

in Montreal you hop into a crowded shitty little STM bus and ride along congested highways that offer great views of desolate industrial parks and shitty little west-island bungalows. Vancouver just doesn't fail to impress.

patience my friend

[Beedok]

I will say there were plenty of parts of suburban Vancouver that looked tacky. The highrises were all lovely, but as the Sky Train zipped between stations I think I saw more plastic flamingoes than in the rest of my life combined.

[Martin Mtl]

/\ That Vancouver set is indeed very impressive. The density of towers seem to have no equivalent in this country.

[OTSkyline]

Wow, what an amazing Vancouver set! The city truly is "beautiful"... the streets, the density, the architecture (maybe its just the overabundance of glass that makes it look "clean" and "new" compared to brick or commie blocks... I think what the city seems to do best too is public spaces. Lots of large plazas, trees, fountains, animation...

Bravo Vancouver

[ssiguy]

Those are some of the best Vancouver shots I've ever seen, thanks.

I agree with OTSkyline that Vancouver has mercifully been spared the big commie blocks that plague many cities like Toronto and, to a less degree, Montreal. This is where the footprint restrictions have really worked well. I also agree that the new buildings give Vancouver a clean and crisp sort of look but conversely somewhat sterile and lacking in warmth and human scale.

I also agree that Vancouver has the nation's best and most glorious parks and the views and connection to nature make her very photogenic but I disagree with the public sphere. Vancouver doesn't have a great public space for civic events, rallys, or just a place to gather. This isn't helped by the fact that City Hall isn't downtown which results in the city being detached from civic governance and events.

[ssiguy]

Originally Posted by logan5

Here's the original post on DT population and density...

Those are super cool maps.

Where is the DT density section.........Canada, NA, world? Have there been any updates or new cities added?

Montreal seems a bit low but who knows. Certainly Toronto is as it is now 250,000. Vancouver has grown as well but not as much. Now that the Olympic Village and old Expo lands are filling up the city has less land to develop in it's core unlike Toronto or Montreal which still have huge swaths of old Waterfront and especially Toronto.

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Those are super cool maps.

Where is the DT density section.........Canada, NA, world? Have there been any updates or new cities added?

Montreal seems a bit low but who knows. Certainly Toronto is as it is now 250,000. Vancouver has grown as well but not as much. Now that the Olympic Village and old Expo lands are filling up the city has less land to develop in it's core unlike Toronto or Montreal which still have huge swaths of old Waterfront and especially Toronto.

downtown Montréal doesn't exists per se, downtown Montréal is Ville-Marie, which is not really the best way to measure the downtown area. In the new Stratégie Centre-ville, the downtown core has an estimated population of 110k-120k, Griffintown - Le Sud-Ouest included.

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to me, they should include parts of Le Plateau, just north of Sherbrooke street. 140k then

[mistercorporate]

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[Acajack]

Originally Posted by mistercorporate

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Toronto-by-the-Sea

[urbanroo]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Those are super cool maps.

Where is the DT density section.........Canada, NA, world? Have there been any updates or new cities added?

Montreal seems a bit low but who knows. Certainly Toronto is as it is now 250,000. Vancouver has grown as well but not as much. Now that the Olympic Village and old Expo lands are filling up the city has less land to develop in it's core unlike Toronto or Montreal which still have huge swaths of old Waterfront and especially Toronto.

They are cool maps and very informative. Of course any measurement like this will have its problems. I'm not convinced that the US cities (at least Chicago, SF and NY) capture the 5 square miles of maximum residential density. I do believe, however, that the Toronto and Vancouver maps basically do capture the highest density areas possible (I don't know Montreal or Seattle well enough to have an opinion). All this is to say that more people tend to live in the downtowns of Canadian cities than in the downtown of American cities.

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by urbanroo

They are cool maps and very informative. Of course any measurement like this will have it's problems. I'm not convinced that the US cities (at least Chicago, SF and NY) capture the 5 square miles of maximum residential density. I do believe, however, that the Toronto and Vancouver maps basically do capture the highest density areas possible (I don't know Montreal or Seattle well enough to have an opinion). All this is to say that more people tend to live in the downtowns of Canadian cities than in the downtown of American cities.

downtown Montréal is not where you will find the highest residential density.

[logan5]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

downtown Montréal doesn't exists per se, downtown Montréal is Ville-Marie, which is not really the best way to measure the downtown area. In the new Stratégie Centre-ville, the downtown core has an estimated population of 110k-120k, Griffintown - Le Sud-Ouest included.

from Mtlurb


to me, they should include parts of Le Plateau, just north of Sherbrooke street. 140k then

How many sq miles is that though? It's probably safe to say Montreal's best density over 5 sq miles is in the 30 000 range.

The new census numbers are coming out soon. Maybe somebody can make updated maps. A lot of work though, as you have to add up a bunch of census tracks that are 1 sq km (or so) each.

Toronto will have risen quite a bit, but to go from 175 000 to 250 000 (a number that's been mentioned a few times) seems like a stretch.

[mistercorporate]

Toronto's stock of large highrise buildings in the downtown core alone has pretty much doubled in recent years. Look at any aerial shot of downtown Toronto and half the tall highrises (predominantly residential) weren't there 14 years ago. I would assume there was a significant uptick in mid-sized towers too.

[Martin Mtl]

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[speedog]

Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMzt486g275/?taken-by=constructiondisca

Help me out here, what exactly are the lines on the top of the building that is under construction in the above photo? My first suspicion is that they're conduits but in any case they almost make the building seem more than just a building. Interesting picture.

[GreaterMontréal]

How many sq miles is that though? It's probably safe to say Montreal's best density over 5 sq miles is in the 30 000 range.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=7320032&postcount=275

[logan5]

Originally Posted by speedog

Help me out here, what exactly are the lines on the top of the building that is under construction in the above photo? My first suspicion is that they're conduits but in any case they almost make the building seem more than just a building. Interesting picture.

That is in slab duct - for kitchen exhaust, Bathroom exhaust, etc. The camera must of moved because there are multiple images there making it look more like a circuit board.

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[davidivivid]

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