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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 4:19 AM
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Air Canada rouge to launch YVR - NGO

Funny how we were JUST talking about this!

Effective 1 June 2017 Air Canada rouge will launch seasonal three weekly YVR - NGO.

AC1955 YVR 1245 - 1515+1 NGO 246 763
AC1956 NGO 1640 - 0955 YVR 357 763

Last edited by Johnny Aussie; Sep 27, 2016 at 5:11 AM. Reason: Fixed start date from 2016 to 2017... thanks JMT
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 4:38 AM
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Wow awesome! AC has really stepped their Japan game out of YVR!
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 4:45 AM
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Air Canada is becoming a real powerhouse of an international airline.

Did you mean 2017 though?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 5:10 AM
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Air Canada is becoming a real powerhouse of an international airline.

Did you mean 2017 though?
I did! Thanks for the correction... Fixed!

Just remember everybody... You heard it here first!!

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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 6:13 AM
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And only here so far. Looks like you got the jump on this one.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 6:22 AM
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And only here so far. Looks like you got the jump on this one.
Once in awhile I get to be first! It's been awhile... Last time was the second daily LHR on AC!
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 7:27 AM
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Since YVR-NGO only runs for 3 days, would there be another new route and/or additional frequency for the other 4 days of that plane?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 7:59 AM
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Since YVR-NGO only runs for 3 days, would there be another new route and/or additional frequency for the other 4 days of that plane?
That still remains a mystery!! All will be revealed soon.
     
     
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I did! Thanks for the correction... Fixed!

Just remember everybody... You heard it here first!!
Good to see AC continuing to expand. Haven't seen anything about this on the news yet though...? Inside info, Johnny?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 9:58 AM
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Good to see AC continuing to expand. Haven't seen anything about this on the news yet though...? Inside info, Johnny?
All will be revealed soon!

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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 2:00 PM
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Great news about the NGO. I await the official announcement - even routesonline seems distracted with their chengdu conference.


I's still incredulous about Japan outsourcing bilateral negotiations to china. Why hand your geopolitical rival power over a major economic driver?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 2:10 PM
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And I have to try to find the link but I read somewhere that most of the YYZ-CPH passengers are not from YYZ< but from other flights. No link, but i'll try to tumble across it..
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Found the source. 90% of YYZ-CPH traffic is connecting traffic. (Page 23). I'm not an insider, but this seems really small O+D and makes me think that YVR has less barriers to building a hub than people realise, if one is worried about O+D traffic.

YYZ is upping the aviation fuel tax in 2017 so I suspect it may slow AC's YYZ's growth, with hopefully more attention being shown to YVR.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 3:10 PM
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It's doubtful that Air Canada will shift their strategy of Pearson being their mega hub. They work in very close partnership with the GTAA.

I mean, the entire idea of Pearson is to funnel almost all of Air Canada's connecting traffic. That's the strategy of both Air Canada and the GTAA.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2016, 4:21 PM
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It's doubtful that Air Canada will shift their strategy of Pearson being their mega hub. They work in very close partnership with the GTAA.

I mean, the entire idea of Pearson is to funnel almost all of Air Canada's connecting traffic. That's the strategy of both Air Canada and the GTAA.
I'm not saying YVR will supplant YYZ. The fact that the bulk of canada's and the USA's population is in the east will never make that happen. I'm saying that there is a viability for further new routes for AC out of YVR, more than one would expect wrt O+D traffic if you cultivate the network.

By the same token, Ontario's aviation fuel tax increase won't make AC cut service at YYZ or not make it its premier hub, but may draw its attention to route developemnt at its other hubs, such as YVR.
     
     
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Would anyone else think it feasible for AC to begin flying to Denver and Houston as other US destinations currently unserved?
     
     
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Would anyone else think it feasible for AC to begin flying to Denver and Houston as other US destinations currently unserved?
As an outsider, I think it might be feasible for AC to serve Denver and Houston, provided there is enough yield. United (a *Alliance partner) already has nonstops to both.
     
     
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Just think... once Japan's new Chuo bullet train connects Nagoya and Tokyo (2027)... you may be able to get into Tokyo faster through Nagoya than flying to Narita.

Hop on a cheap Rouge flight to Nagoya, take the train from Nagoya airport to downtown (28 minutes) and then hop on the next train to Shinagawa station ( +40 minutes ).

The train from Narita takes 75 minutes to Shinagawa.

     
     
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Just think... once Japan's new Chuo bullet train connects Nagoya and Tokyo (2027)... you may be able to get into Tokyo faster through Nagoya than flying to Narita.

Hop on a cheap Rouge flight to Nagoya, take the train from Nagoya airport to downtown (28 minutes) and then hop on the next train to Shinagawa station ( +40 minutes ).

The train from Narita takes 75 minutes to Shinagawa.

Yes however this requires sitting on a Rouge jet for 9ish hours.... Bad seats, bad service, and overall fairly unprofessional.
     
     
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Since YVR-NGO only runs for 3 days, would there be another new route and/or additional frequency for the other 4 days of that plane?
KIX and NGO are only 94 miles apart. Bigger question is how will YVR-NGO affect YVR-KIX.

My guess would be to have YVR-NGO at 4 weekly and KIX-NGO the other three weekly.
     
     
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