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Old Posted Sep 17, 2016, 2:49 PM
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In two years we'll be able to see the Drummond (25 fl), TDC 2 (47 fl) and the completed Holiday Inn!
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2016, 2:58 PM
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2016, 3:00 PM
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It looks a lot better than City Place imo. Thankfully, this area is only now seeing significant height added. It missed those dark years where huge swaths of downtown were inundated with a sea of sterile boring glass boxes/spandrel. E Condos and 1 Eglinton East are both much better and a move away from that aesthetic.
Spandrel is at its peak and how exactly are E Condos and 1 Eglinton not glass boxes? Cityplace makes a great example for how the finer details in design and execution has, in many ways, gotten progressive worse for the average glass tower.
     
     
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Breath of fresh air, nice to see all the new developments. Does anyone know when they'll start phase 2 for ICONE and the 1000-1006 de la Montagne et 947 Lucien-L'Allier project?
     
     
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In two years we'll be able to see the Drummond (25 fl), TDC 2 (47 fl) and the completed Holiday Inn!
Is the Holiday hill supposed to be slightly higher than CCE tower when completed ? The crane seems to be too low in that shoot.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2016, 4:12 PM
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There will be 12 more floors to the HI from that picture ab. It will be as high or slightly higher that the higher tower of CCI.

     
     
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In two years we'll be able to see the Drummond (25 fl), TDC 2 (47 fl) and the completed Holiday Inn!
and who knows, maybe the Icone II (is it 105m?)
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2016, 6:09 PM
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/60...gh-tsunami-over-Atlantic-scientists-warn

Toronto is sure going to look different after that wave.....
     
     
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Toronto is sure going to look different after that wave.....
Why?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2016, 7:06 PM
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Why?
Just look at the picture used to represent an East Coast city. I think they may have got their large NA cities mixed up, lol.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2016, 8:14 PM
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Just look at the picture used to represent an East Coast city. I think they may have got their large NA cities mixed up, lol.
I've noticed that an increasing number of people refer to Toronto (and Montreal) as the "East Coast", even people who have lived in those places (not just British Columbians who view the 80% of the country's land area that falls east of the Rockies as an undifferentiated blob). Even if those people were shown this article and the photo were labelled they wouldn't necessarily see anything questionable.

Is the aspiration to be associated with the better-known region of the US so strong that people are willing to accept a bit of cognitive dissonance, or are they just that geographically illiterate? I am not sure.
     
     
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I've noticed that an increasing number of people refer to Toronto (and Montreal) as the "East Coast", even people who have lived in those places (not just British Columbians who view the 80% of the country's land area that falls east of the Rockies as an undifferentiated blob). Even if those people were shown this article and the photo were labelled they wouldn't necessarily see anything questionable.

Is the aspiration to be associated with the better-known region of the US so strong that people are willing to accept a bit of cognitive dissonance, or are they just that geographically illiterate? I am not sure.
I remember when I was growing up in Halifax few people would refer to Toronto as eastern Canada. It was 'central Canada'. It is the east, but it's definitely not east coast. Montreal isn't either.

That said, would a tsunami traveling across the Atlantic reach Montreal or Toronto? Surely geography would reduce its impact by the time it moved into the St. Lawrence seaway?
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I remember when I was growing up in Halifax few people would refer to Toronto as eastern Canada. It was 'central Canada'. It is the east, but it's definitely not east coast. Montreal isn't either.

That said, would a tsunami traveling across the Atlantic reach Montreal or Toronto? Surely geography would reduce its impact by the time it moved into the St. Lawrence seaway?
I think Montreal would see a bit of damage. Maybe 50-100cm of Tsunami?
     
     
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I've noticed that an increasing number of people refer to Toronto (and Montreal) as the "East Coast", even people who have lived in those places (not just British Columbians who view the 80% of the country's land area that falls east of the Rockies as an undifferentiated blob). Even if those people were shown this article and the photo were labelled they wouldn't necessarily see anything questionable.

Is the aspiration to be associated with the better-known region of the US so strong that people are willing to accept a bit of cognitive dissonance, or are they just that geographically illiterate? I am not sure.
I've never met a Torontonian who referred to Toronto as being on the "east coast". It's patently obvious to just about everyone from Toronto that the city is not on an ocean, and even after you've left the city for many years this is basic knowledge that you don't lose sight of. To Americans who I meet in Vancouver, I say I'm "originally from Ontario, on the eastern side of the country", because Ontario is in the eastern half of Canada geographically, and I don't want to explain the concept of "Central Canada" to them when I'm really just making small talk.

I've definitely met British Columbians who referred to Toronto and Ontario as the "East Coast". They weren't that geographically inclined, but moreover I think that they associated the Eastern Time Zone with the East Coast.
     
     
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I think Montreal would see a bit of damage. Maybe 50-100cm of Tsunami?
There's also the issue of a narrowing body of water. The volume of water doesn't change but if it's being funneled into a seaway, that wave would get much higher rather than lower.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2016, 9:56 PM
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I've never met a Torontonian who referred to Toronto as being on the "east coast".
All of my examples were Torontonians (and Montrealers) who'd lived here for a bit, so maybe the local use of the term "East Coast" and highly approximate understanding of eastern North American geography rubbed off on them. Still, it seems weird.

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It's patently obvious to just about everyone from Toronto that the city is not on an ocean, and even after you've left the city for many years this is basic knowledge that you don't lose sight of.
I would agree with this although some people do like to say that the Great Lakes scenery is equivalent or comparable to either coast while to me they seem like apples and oranges. The Great Lakes don't remind me of an open coastal area at all; they are more like a scaled up version of a small lake. Even Vancouver is not really like Tofino or the exposed Oregon coast. It is less rugged and less marine-influenced in general.

In a lot of ways Toronto is a "jack of all trades" city within Canada, not just as far as cultures and demographics go but when it comes to the scenery and natural environment and the city's history. It's not as young as the west but not as old as eastern areas. It's on the water but it's not really a port or maritime city at all. It's got a lot of ethnic groups and subcultures but it's hard to point to any particular, unique local culture that you can't get more of in some other place.

This all adds up to something decent overall; the city is a practical and good place to live with few major downsides (except for infrastructure that hasn't really kept pace with growth over the past 20+ years). However, the lakeshore vs. seacoast comparison serves as an example of how the city's individual characteristics tend to stack up with other places.

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To Americans who I meet in Vancouver, I say I'm "originally from Ontario, on the eastern side of the country", because Ontario is in the eastern half of Canada geographically, and I don't want to explain the concept of "Central Canada" to them when I'm really just making small talk.
I've had Americans tell me a few times that I'm wrong when I tell them that Atlantic Canada is one hour ahead of Eastern time (+30 minutes in Newfoundland). New York is eastern time and it's at the edge of the continent therefore there is no North American landmass that can be farther ahead. I guess they know just enough to be dangerous.

Similarly a lot of them think of Canada as being "north" of the US. If they are aware that a place like Nova Scotia exists for example they often think you get to it by going to Portland ME then heading due north. Back in the 90's a few American newspapers were referring to Halifax (~44N) as "Seattle North" (~48N). I guess the fact-checking was substandard even in those days.

To be clear, I don't expect any real knowledge of Canadian geography from Americans, although it is suspect when they have a strong opinion but have no idea what they are talking about.
     
     
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There's also the issue of a narrowing body of water. The volume of water doesn't change but if it's being funneled into a seaway, that wave would get much higher rather than lower.
True, but the Maritimes are blocking most of it.



Also depends on the time of day. There's some serious tidal bores, so St John and Quebec's main cities could well be saved by their freakishly high tides.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2016, 11:20 PM
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Aren't we getting sidetrack? The photo clearly shows a tsunami coming from the direction of Hudson Bay.
     
     
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