Winnipeg | Osborne Village & Fort Rouge

[esquire]

Originally Posted by buzzg

I do think, medium-to-long term, the Villages will need a big public parkade. Would love to see one built in the centre of Confusion Corner, with a brand new redeveloped corner hiding it all around and CRUs facing the streets with residential on top. That's the perfect spot for a parkade, can service Corydon and Osborne visitors equally well, close to the RT station.

I'd say a parkade is inevitable. Might as well build sooner rather than later and start enjoying the benefits now. However, Confusion Corner is too far from anything to be useful... not many will be tempted to park their car there and walk to Bar I in January. The best location would be someplace like the surface lots behind Vita Health.

When the city gets around to building it, they should really make an effort to get it as big as possible to relieve pressure for the long haul, i.e. get developers involved so that condos and apartments within a couple blocks can effectively buy parking spaces, that kind of thing.

[buzzg]

Ideally, I think we may get to a point soon enough (if CC gets developed) that there may be incentive for a private developer to build one. It won't happen behind Vita Health, those are going to be turned to condos when the hotel is done. Maybe between Snap and Brickhouse, but there's not a ton of space. Also, I don't know if you want to put a giant parking complex right beside houses and small condos. Really gotta try and get the industrial out of that area...

[Cyro]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Ideally, I think we may get to a point soon enough (if CC gets developed) that there may be incentive for a private developer to build one. It won't happen behind Vita Health, those are going to be turned to condos when the hotel is done.

Maybe between Snap and Brickhouse, but there's not a ton of space. Also, I don't know if you want to put a giant parking complex right beside houses and small condos. Really gotta try and get the industrial out of that area...

Yeah, agree on this one, that's the plan going forward.

Seems like a reasonable location. It's a difficult choice but if it comes to fruition, East of Osborne between Stradbrook and confusion Corner would seem the likeliest spot for increasing available parking.( for those visiting the area)

The Empty lot right at Confusion corner is a prime location for eventual development, but as you mentioned in conjunction with a residential/retail mix. I don't foresee any type of relief for Corydon Ave, not the way it's structured and zoned.

[buzzg]

^Yeah, I think at CC is the best option to be able to also serve Corydon Village because it's primarily a summer destination anyway (parking in winter is never an issue at all), so parking at CC and walking down the strip is pretty reasonable for ppl who are driving there from other areas. "Walking Corydon" is one of its main attractions.

[borkborkbork]

The Impark lot behind Liberty Tax/Marty's Gold/Vintage in the Village/etc is almost always empty.

This is the problem -- the shortage people are complaining about isn't of parking, it's of free parking. This total unwillingness to pay for parking will make putting a parkade in challenging.

If there were a parkade, though, it strikes me the Masonic Hall parking lot would be a good spot. It would provide parking for the office building Imperial is constructing, would be a good 'park and ride' location for RT, and would provide parking for people looking to wander Osborne Village or Corydon. And, it wouldn't be eating up particularly appealing land (flanked by Donald St and the transitway/tracks, with no residential neighbours).

[esquire]

^ I like the looks of the Masonic Temple building, but it really gobbles up a lot of space in a wasteful way. I'd love to see that site get cleared and redeveloped, although the "island" where Dollarama sits is obviously a bigger priority. I wonder if the size of the latter makes redevelopment a challenge... it's a pretty huge site.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

The Impark lot behind Liberty Tax/Marty's Gold/Vintage in the Village/etc is almost always empty.

This is the problem -- the shortage people are complaining about isn't of parking, it's of free parking. This total unwillingness to pay for parking will make putting a parkade in challenging.

If there were a parkade, though, it strikes me the Masonic Hall parking lot would be a good spot. It would provide parking for the office building Imperial is constructing, would be a good 'park and ride' location for RT, and would provide parking for people looking to wander Osborne Village or Corydon. And, it wouldn't be eating up particularly appealing land (flanked by Donald St and the transitway/tracks, with no residential neighbours).

Originally Posted by esquire

^ I like the looks of the Masonic Temple building, but it really gobbles up a lot of space in a wasteful way. I'd love to see that site get cleared and redeveloped, although the "island" where Dollarama sits is obviously a bigger priority. I wonder if the size of the latter makes redevelopment a challenge... it's a pretty huge site.

Completely agree with everything in both these comments.

When that massive lot behind Stella's gets developed it'll make free parking hard to find off-street, which is probably a good thing, as it'll make paid more attractive/necessary.

Also agree that Masonic is a waste of space and its lot would be a good parkade candidate, but it's probably the absolute last thing on my list of priorities for the village, lol.

[Cyro]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

This is the problem -- the shortage people are complaining about isn't of parking, it's of free parking. This total unwillingness to pay for parking will make putting a parkade in challenging.

yes....it also stems from the fact that visitors to the area in general are taking away spaces that permanent residents friends, family etc..may have used on the simplest of casual or short visits and so forth even though the streets are quiet residential ones a fair distance of the main points of interest and sometimes even use these spots to abandon their vehicles and visit someone blocks away..for days..

Not complaining really, It's the Nature of the Corydon/Village area but it gets frustrating from time to time...

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by Cyro

sometimes even use these spots to abandon their vehicles and visit someone blocks away..for days..

There are cars on Wardlaw across from the Stella's parking lot that have been there for weeks unmoved. On Gertrude near the school, there was a car sitting there for weeks with a flat tire. There are MTS employees from the Corydon location who use street parking throughout the south Village and Earl Grey areas as their day-to-day work parking.

Even the smallest parking cost would discourage this kind of use and would make parking easy to find.

[Cyro]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

There are cars on Wardlaw across from the Stella's parking lot that have been there for weeks unmoved. On Gertrude near the school, there was a car sitting there for weeks with a flat tire. There are MTS employees from the Corydon location who use street parking throughout the south Village and Earl Grey areas as their day-to-day work parking.

Even the smallest parking cost would discourage this kind of use and would make parking easy to find.

Have the same problem on the other side of Osborne.

Even the streets with 2 hour limits can be turned into a parking space.Get a pass from the City of Winnipeg, viola, cheaper then paying for a parking spot in your condo or apt..

But I do agree, cost to park will deter some, even the 2 hour zones come in handy for the casual visitor, but this also effects permanent residents to a degree.

[DonaldSmith]

Anytime Fitness is going in on the second floor of Shoppers.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by DonaldSmith

Anytime Fitness is going in on the second floor of Shoppers.

Finally... glad to see something filling that long-vacant space.

[Urban recluse]

Yes, great use too.

[buzzg]

^It's the same owner as the one on north Main. He's planning on putting an outdoor workout space/equipment on the roof too.

[Urban recluse]

Incredible.

[biguc]

Any word on when that Anytime will open? The OV Snap has become a den of roided out douchebags so I'm courting new gyms.

[esquire]

I see that Pet Valu has set up shop between Dollarama and the organic grocery at Confusion Corner. They're filling a space that has been vacant for at least a couple of years.

[buzzg]

Anytime is hoping to open before the end of September.

[esquire]

Any word yet on what will be filling the ground floor space of the new office building at the south end of Confusion Corner?

[buzzg]

It's still up for lease on the website.