Edmonton Construction 13 (November 2015) - Page 203

Hallsy's Toupee · #**4041** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by canucklehead2

Refresh my memory, which Eastern Slopes ski proposal are you talking about? Was this the Folding Mountain Village project from the early 1970's? The only other recent Alberta ski proposal that I've heard about in the last 30 or so years was the reject Mt. Shark/Tent Ridge/Mt. Sparrowhawk complex in the Spray Lakes Kananaskis area...

I believe that was a proposed new ski resort in the Columbia Valley, I think near Panorama.

EDIT: is it Jumbo?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-co...t-substantially-started-in-b-c-1.3119214

Rocket252 · #**4042** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 3:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Landlocked

140 cities worldwide were in this and I'm pretty sure Edmonton was not in it. Calgary has a knack for getting their name into the hat. They can beat their chests all they want, it's no different than a rural Saskatchewan kid being the smartest kid in his class, consisting of 7 children.

Not to mention, livable doesn't equate to affordable in this survey, something that in my opinion is part of livable.

Edmonton needs to get the "knack" as well. We are seriously unknown on a lot of these lists that come out.

Not to say we would be top ten on this list but certainly top 50 in the world.

MalcolmTucker · #**4043** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 3:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

Edmonton needs to get the "knack" as well. We are seriously unknown on a lot of these lists that come out.

Not to say we would be top ten on this list but certainly top 50 in the world.

These lists (Economist, Mercer) are produced for customers that use the data to evaluate salaries and working conditions at branch offices. Get a presence of a few investment banks, get on the list?

EdmTrekker · #**4044** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 3:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by canucklehead2

Refresh my memory, which Eastern Slopes ski proposal are you talking about? Was this the Folding Mountain Village project from the early 1970's? The only other recent Alberta ski proposal that I've heard about in the last 30 or so years was the reject Mt. Shark/Tent Ridge/Mt. Sparrowhawk complex in the Spray Lakes Kananaskis area...

Folding Mountain Village project from the early 1970's. I had thought there was a group working on a ski development in that area and a large resort hotel etc. Likely the people in town of Hinton office have some of that background material.

Makenosmallplans · #**4045** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

These lists (Economist, Mercer) are produced for customers that use the data to evaluate salaries and working conditions at branch offices. Get a presence of a few investment banks, get on the list?

I agree. And one can quibble with the methodologies used to rank cities, similar to University rankings we see all the time. However, they generally are aimed at an overriding goal (from a cities point of view) to attract people (employees) and companies to that city. i do think what is missing in Edmonton is a conscious decision and strategy to target some of the elements of such rankings... not for the sake of making a list but to actually improve livability for current and future citizens. we need to get the homicide rate down, we need more amenities, particularly around the river valley and we need public transportation that works. some of this is in the works but there is still even a fight to get BRT, LRT and separated bike lanes going in the city... things every city on that list has or is visibly working toward.

etown · #**4046** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 5:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/top-10-m...-vancouver-calgary-and-toronto-1.2740493

Not a peep about Edmonton.

And Calgary in the top 5 - give me a break

I call BS on this list.

This article is from 2014. I'm sure with the new arena Edmonton will make the list.

Coldrsx · #**4047** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 5:37 PM**

^unfortunate part about being 2 cities of 1mil so close, only 1 gets invited to dance.

240glt · #**4048** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

I believe that was a proposed new ski resort in the Columbia Valley, I think near Panorama.

EDIT: is it Jumbo?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-co...t-substantially-started-in-b-c-1.3119214

Jumbo was supposed to be in the Purcells west of Invermere.

Back in the late '90s there were grand plans for a major highway that would cut right through there from the Okanagan, through the Monashees and Purcells to the AB border. I hope that died as well

kcantor · #**4049** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 6:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^unfortunate part about being 2 cities of 1mil so close, only 1 gets invited to dance.

i'm not sure that's actually how it works...

it's more like an expensive rfp request where not all developers or contractors - or architects for that matter - choose to spend the time and money to submit and, as you know, you can't respond to all of them or meet all of the submission of requirements of all of them.

Coldrsx · #**4050** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 6:04 PM**

Possibly, which is a shame for us if true, but I have heard on more than one occasion that 1 city is chosen from each area and criteria regionally.

s4.audios · #**4051** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 6:39 PM**

Good on Calgary for getting on there. Edmonton is not drastically different so it would have made it on the list if it was looked at.

s211 · #**4052** Posted **Aug 19, 2016, 7:12 PM**

Guys, I don't know how many times it's had to be repeated on this and other forums, but the Mercer study's purpose effectively has to do with establishing compensation for executive staff of large multinationals, and quality of life is one of the compensation measures. Given that Edmonton is not home to many multinational executive positions (exclusive of homegrown multinationals), it's no wonder Edmonton is not on the list.

It's not a slight against Edmonton per se.

Hallsy's Toupee · #**4053** Posted **Aug 20, 2016, 5:07 AM**

Edmonton's new Brewery District draws kudos and questions
http://edmontonjournal.com/business/comm...wery-district-draws-kudos-and-questions#

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“They’ve got a good mix of businesses and a good vibe going here,” he says. “Even the parking lot is nice, with its big curbs and its green space."

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“I think it’s lovely, far better than the big dirt hole that was here before.”

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reminds him of Vancouver’s Granville Island

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“I like it. It’s not that strip-mall effect. I find a lot of the buildings here in Edmonton are built on the cheap, so it’s nice to see this.”

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“Two-thirds of our parking is underground and only one-third is above ground”

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“It’s a very inward-looking structure. It’s hard to summarize how bad it feels. It’s like a walled city with nothing inside it. The ‘courtyard’ is a parking lot.”

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While he likes the wide sidewalks and the open patios, he is disappointed the shops and cafes don’t open onto the street, but turn their backs on Oliver. And he faults the development for a lack of cycling infrastructure.

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“When I went in to Loblaws on opening weekend, I don’t think I ever saw more smiles in a grocery store in my life.”

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there will be two bike paths through the development which connect to the city’s multi-use path behind the site, which will also be widened. They will be more bike racks, too, he promises. There will be two landscaped pocket parks as part of the finished development. As for the interior orientation? Huizinga says part of that is because they had to leave a big setback to accommodate the LRT right-of-way planned for 104 Avenue.

Coldrsx · #**4054** Posted **Aug 20, 2016, 4:24 PM**

Some of the funniest stuff I have heard ^in a long long time is that Quote:
reminds him of Vancouver’s Granville Island

Harrij · #**4055** Posted **Aug 20, 2016, 8:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Kokkei Mizu

Edmonton Tower:

Edmonton Tower by Chris Vazquez, on Flickr

This looks they're installing fins/mullions in between the windows on the north face, no?

ssiguy · #**4056** Posted **Aug 20, 2016, 11:28 PM**

That Brewery District looks like it would be more at home in Strathcona County.

That thing is suburbia 101 except it has brick. It is these kind of developments that inhibit pedestrian interaction and lively streetscapes. You would think Edmonton of all cities would have learnt that lesson by now.

Black Star · #**4057** Posted **Aug 21, 2016, 12:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Harrij

This looks they're installing fins/mullions in between the windows on the north face, no?

Dam handsome shot.

Hardhatdan · #**4058** Posted **Aug 21, 2016, 1:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Harrij

This looks they're installing fins/mullions in between the windows on the north face, no?

That's a very very nice detail.

hilman · #**4059** Posted **Aug 21, 2016, 3:29 PM**

I was talking to a guy that works at the PCL head office about the ICE District and he said that the tower has been designed/has provisions for being up to 71-72 floors if needed/wanted.

Harrison · #**4060** Posted **Aug 21, 2016, 4:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by hilman

I was talking to a guy that works at the PCL head office about the ICE District and he said that the tower has been designed/has provisions for being up to 71-72 floors if needed/wanted.

Hmmmm...well if they do intend to go higher, would most likely be added residential units versus more office (which downtown doesn't need right now imo). However, I am not terribly optimistic Stantec will surprise us, unfortunately.