Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4

[Gastroc]

The only population statistic that matters is CSA (Combined Statistical Area) roughly 2,468,000 for SLC's. Salt Lake Ranks 23rd in the US while our metro area is 48th. When looking at population of a city, as has been mentioned, it is all relative because some cities like Oklahoma City, have a "city" population of over 630,000 because their city limits cover over 620 sq. miles while SLC's only covers 110 sq. miles. But OKC's CSA is 1.4 million, which is 39th overall, sixteen spots lower than SLC's CSA. CSA are your people who will commute for work, college, shopping and athletic events in the main city and surrounding areas so SLC is doing pretty well in that regard. Cities population statistics are completely relative and trivial in my opinion.

[Gastroc]

China's smog problem may have a solution with their "Smog Free Project" that SLC should look into:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/w..._source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[Ironweed]

Originally Posted by Gastroc

The only population statistic that matters is CSA (Combined Statistical Area) roughly 2,468,000 for SLC's. Salt Lake Ranks 23rd in the US while our metro area is 48th. When looking at population of a city, as has been mentioned, it is all relative because some cities like Oklahoma City, have a "city" population of over 630,000 because their city limits cover over 620 sq. miles while SLC's only covers 110 sq. miles. But OKC's CSA is 1.4 million, which is 39th overall, sixteen spots lower than SLC's CSA. CSA are your people who will commute for work, college, shopping and athletic events in the main city and surrounding areas so SLC is doing pretty well in that regard. Cities population statistics are completely relative and trivial in my opinion.

You guys are not getting my point.

Oh..Ok, the CSA is 23 in size... Spread all over from where the ark landed... The point is: Sprawl is heavy in Utah, and it needs to stop!!!
Last check: Utah was 2'nd in the nation in urban sprawl. (Resulting in horrific pollution, traffic up the yin yang, and a decrease in life quality.)

Can you imagine another 3 million people on I-15? I didn't think so... True urban centers need to be developed and now!!!

[delts145]

Originally Posted by Gastroc

China's smog problem may have a solution with their "Smog Free Project" that SLC should look into:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/w..._source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

That is one of the best ideas to come along. I don't know why they didn't come up with this on a large scale sooner. On a smaller scale, I have one of those contraptions in my house which I use regularly. It 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 up the interior air and cleans it, before spewing it back out again. It's a simple principal, and works great. Not only Salt Lake City, but Los Angeles needs to look into this too.

Seriously, some of us should follow up on this. Salt Lake could start a trial run in areas such as around the oil refineries. If the trials in the Chinese cities are proving successful, I think SLC officials would be very happy to jump on the band wagon. This seems like one of the more user friendly and cost effective means to come along.

[delts145]

Not to offend anybody's open space sensibilities, but I couldn't help but wonder what it would be like to develop some of that barren slope to the far left, behind and north of the Capital. Hey, it is downtown adj., and also in the interest of urban density. I'm thinking along the line of the project that Orlando posted recently, that's going up at the mouth of Emigration Canyon.

Originally Posted by TonyAnderson

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHqWr17hvHM/

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[Palladio]

Originally Posted by delts145

Not to offend anybody's open space sensibilities, but I couldn't help but wonder what it would be like to develop some of that barren slope to the far left, behind and north of the Capital. Hey, it is downtown adj., and also in the interest of urban density. I'm thinking along the line of the project that Orlando posted recently, that's going up at the mouth of Emigration Canyon.
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The city definitely wouldn't allow that. Not from an open space concern or zoning, but from a sheer build-ability perspective. It is very steep and at high risk for earthquake effects. It would cost absurd amounts of money to properly construct something on that slope, so even if they allowed developers in there the only kind of construction that could generate a profit would be astronomically expensive.

[Palladio]

Originally Posted by Gastroc

The only population statistic that matters is CSA (Combined Statistical Area) roughly 2,468,000 for SLC's. Salt Lake Ranks 23rd in the US while our metro area is 48th. When looking at population of a city, as has been mentioned, it is all relative because some cities like Oklahoma City, have a "city" population of over 630,000 because their city limits cover over 620 sq. miles while SLC's only covers 110 sq. miles. But OKC's CSA is 1.4 million, which is 39th overall, sixteen spots lower than SLC's CSA. CSA are your people who will commute for work, college, shopping and athletic events in the main city and surrounding areas so SLC is doing pretty well in that regard. Cities population statistics are completely relative and trivial in my opinion.

Just for the hell of it, I threw together my own map of how I see the greater Salt Lake City metro area. The CSA's are county based, if I remember right, and just from a cartographical perspective don't do justice to seeing what our metro area looks like.

I included everything from as far north as Preston and Malad, out to Grantsville and Kamas, and down to Nephi. I tried to include everything that fits into a day trip for regular commerce. (Of course, all of this is fairly arbitrary. I wasn't looking at any kind of data when drawing this up). Under this map, Salt Lake City, and our downtown specifically, represents a very important economic, social and political center for a very large populated region.

[wrendog]

Logan/preston isn't included in the SLC CSA

[Gastroc]

Originally Posted by delts145

That is one of the best ideas to come along. I don't know why they didn't come up with this on a large scale sooner. On a smaller scale, I have one of those contraptions in my house which I use regularly. It 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 up the interior air and cleans it, before spewing it back out again. It's a simple principal, and works great. Not only Salt Lake City, but Los Angeles needs to look into this too.

Seriously, some of us should follow up on this. Salt Lake could start a trial run in areas such as around the oil refineries. If the trials in the Chinese cities are proving successful, I think SLC officials would be very happy to jump on the band wagon. This seems like one of the more user friendly and cost effective means to come along.

I love the idea. Who could we contact to do something or just pass the word along? Even if we just send the link to someone with a larger voice?

[ajiuO]

Does anyone know if the city has ever said anything about solving the sewage Oder problem along the north side of 100s between state street and west temple? Sometimes it smells so bad. I feel bad for the people sitting out side of Brio eating.

[bflatflat9]

Originally Posted by wrendog

Logan/preston isn't included in the SLC CSA

Dammit!

[Ironweed]

Originally Posted by ajiuO

Does anyone know if the city has ever said anything about solving the sewage Oder problem along the north side of 100s between state street and west temple? Sometimes it smells so bad. I feel bad for the people sitting out side of Brio eating.

Nope. They just dump the partially treated goop into the lake, with more phosphates, leading to more green toxic avenger organisms.

[Hatman]

I was out and about the other day and I found this:

Keep up the good work, SPHansen.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Ironweed

Nope. They just dump the partially treated goop into the lake, with more phosphates, leading to more green toxic avenger organisms.

Except that was not a result from partially treated goop. Low water levels and heat caused the algae. The discharge from sewer treatment plants is very clean, and often times it's cleaner than culinary water supplies.

[billbillbillbill]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Except that was not a result from partially treated goop. Low water levels and heat caused the algae. The discharge from sewer treatment plants is very clean, and often times it's cleaner than culinary water supplies.

If you want an interesting read, see this article from 2008 predicting these algae blooms. This was back when they first proposed the carp removal to save the june sucker. The carp stirred up the mud actually preventing the algae bloom. Definitely not as simple as carp and phosphorus discharges.

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/cl...13f4750-3884-5343-970c-2b19938b32bd.html

[s.p.hansen]

Originally Posted by Hatman

Keep up the good work, SPHansen.

I've seen a few around downtown.

[ajiuO]

I think the sidewalk in front of UPAC could reopen any day now. The Loby looks mostly done, almost all signs of construction both inside and out are gone... looks like they are just going some final touches. They are literally to the point that they are cleaning glass. Might be a little while on the regent street side though.

I think the loby and sidewalk for 111 will be opened in a matter of weeks. They are mainly working on the gaps between that building & UPAC, and the building next to it on 100s. Looks like they have a little bit of loby and sidewalk work left. I think the building is already in limited operation... looks like a business is set up on the 11th Flor.

It looks like the east side of the loby is being partition off. I wonder if they will have a coffee shop or somthing there.

[Future Mayor]

The ribbon cutting for the Theater is scheduled for October 18th.

I do think you're right though on the sidewalk reopening any day now. I walked past is yesterday and it looks pretty complete to me. The curb and sidewalks were different than normal. There are section of the Main St sidewalk that actually two sections maybe 10' long that slope down to the street. Maybe it's for better valet access or Red Carpet walks, I'm not sure.

I peaked in the mid-block walkway and they are doing some work in there, they had something installed in the ground, put I couldn't tell what they were. This whole PAC, 111, Regent St project is going to have a massive positive impact for that area of downtown and downtown in general.

[Makid]

TSA zone changes are coming:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/4159391-155/salt-lake-city-holds-open-house

You can also comment and take a survey regarding the current and planned changes at the following: http://www.slcgov.com/opencityhall?pd_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peakdemocracy.com%2Fportals%2F79%2F3835

The main changes are found here: http://www.slcdocs.com/Planning/Projects/Current%20Initiatives/TSAChangesConsideredJuly20.pdf

The document does have a score re-evaluation at the bottom to show how the changes would affect the projects. I like that they are giving better scores to those that have less parking going forward...

The timeline for this is that Q4' of this year is when it would be updated pending any other changes.

[asies1981]

Post on several townhome projects in East Central.