ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[BunkyWay]

Originally Posted by NewUrbanist90

How is there no Krog St infill station???

As well as the fact that the "Armour" infill station appears to be in the middle of nowhere. It would make a lot more sense for the BeltLine transit to connect at Lindbergh. There's no infill station at Peachtree Circle/North Midtown. There's nothing being done to Five Points to move the bus bays underground and allow for the development of the air rights and improve user-friendliness.

This plan is full of more pet-projects, so I will be voting against it. Nothing to help commuters whatsoever!

[thepope117]

Originally Posted by BunkyWay

As well as the fact that the "Armour" infill station appears to be in the middle of nowhere. It would make a lot more sense for the BeltLine transit to connect at Lindbergh. There's no infill station at Peachtree Circle/North Midtown. There's nothing being done to Five Points to move the bus bays underground and allow for the development of the air rights and improve user-friendliness.

This plan is full of more pet-projects, so I will be voting against it. Nothing to help commuters whatsoever!

Armour Yard serves MARTA,Norfolk Southern,and Amtrack so it would allow for an Amtrack connection with marta and give MARTA a potential expansion node for another east-west line in the future and integrates into the beltlines ROW it makes a tonne of sense for expanding connectivity. There's only so much that can realistically be done at five points without a 9 figure expenditure unless your going to shut the system down for a few years. The rest of the infill stations make sense if the objective is to make the system more efficient for the people who use it and stimulate growth south and west of the core.

[Libertarian]

The rest of the infill stations make sense if the objective is to make the system more efficient for the people who use it and stimulate growth south and west of the core.

I support the theory, but the present situation is that existing stations between downtown and the airport are mostly underutilized.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

I support the theory, but the present situation is that existing stations between downtown and the airport are mostly underutilized.

That is just not supported by the facts (from 2013): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MARTA_rail_stations

Among the Southern stations, College Park is #3 most used, West End is #6, East Point is #15 and Oakland is #16 (out of 38 stations)

[shivtim]

An SAP/SPI was just submitted and fees paid for the 12 story apartment building at 377 Centennial Olympic Park Dr.



The Georgia Tech Foundation officially filed plans last week to alter the Crum and Forster building to allow for restaurant/retail.

A bunch of building permits were just issued for new apartments at Ardmore Circle, near the Brookwood split (200 26th st). These should have Beltline access via the short Peachtree Battle Trail spur.

And I may have missed these in the recent flurry of construction and proposal announcements, but 775 Juniper (Juniper and 5th) filed their building permit and paid fees.


That's in addition to 1400 W.Peachtree (Ascent Midtown) and 880 W.Peachtree (Alexan) filing building permits. I expect these will both happen, as they've both paid over $180K in building permit fees already.

[Libertarian]

That is just not supported by the facts (from 2013): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._rail_stations

OK, I accept that MARTA gets lots of love from those stations. My main point, is that the system needs express trains to handle commuters to the airport. It's very discouraging to sit through a dozen stops when one is trying to get there. Maybe it's not a priority though.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by shivtim

And I may have missed these in the recent flurry of construction and proposal announcements, but 775 Juniper (Juniper and 5th) filed their building permit and paid fees.

That's in addition to 1400 W.Peachtree (Ascent Midtown) and 880 W.Peachtree (Alexan) filing building permits. I expect these will both happen, as they've both paid over $180K in building permit fees already.

Yesssss! That's one I've been really hoping would go!

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

OK, I accept that MARTA gets lots of love from those stations. My main point, is that the system needs express trains to handle commuters to the airport. It's very discouraging to sit through a dozen stops when one is trying to get there. Maybe it's not a priority though.

Even Chicago is just now starting to plan express trains to the airport... Not saying it's a bad idea, express trains a great for multi-track systems, but to suggest it is a preferred project should be considered entitled and unnecessary considering our current system and our opportunity for expansion, to boost ridership, and stimulate infill development within the city.

[Libertarian]

express trains a great for multi-track systems

They can be configured for two-track systems, and the cost of implementation shouldn't be so huge. It's already dicey to try to get to the airport on MARTA. Adding more infill stations only worsens the situation. OK moderators, I'm done.

[skyscraper_inspector]

Brace yourselves, property values... the Beltline is coming...

https://whatnowatlanta.com/atlanta-beltline-and-fhlb-renew-housing-initiative-program/

[sbrptree]

The transition in Midtown between North Ave and 6th Street over the next few years will be nothing short of remarkable if all the proposed projects actually happen!!

[DWNTWN]

[QUOTE=shivtim;7439690]An SAP/SPI was just submitted and fees paid for the 12 story apartment building at 377 Centennial Olympic Park Dr.



Happy to see this project moving forward quickly. With the Post development across the street moving along, is there any chance these push Novare to build the second tower at Twelve Centennial Park? Do they still control that land? I know a lot of people hate Novare on this forum, I would just like to see the project finished as initially planned, instead of a "Skyhouse Downtown," or similar. I have not heard any rumblings about Novare's next Atlanta project, and Atlantic House is finishing up soon enough.

[Martinman]

Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

The Peachtree and 3rd development is also in this area and it clearly does not take the surrounding architecture and it looks fantastic. My issue is what was presented looks like (rhymes with it), not that it will not fit into the existing architecture. With that said, the architect for this project TVSdesign (http://www.tvs-design.com/) has designed some incredible projects.

I don't think they were saying that the hotel proposal has to look like the surrounding buildings but that it needs to be architecturally significant. Faux historic architecture can be just as bad as anything else. Basically, this is not the location for the typical glass and concrete building.

[arctk2014]

Originally Posted by Martinman

I don't think they were saying that the hotel proposal has to look like the surrounding buildings but that it needs to be architecturally significant. Faux historic architecture can be just as bad as anything else. Basically, this is not the location for the typical glass and concrete building.

Ironically Cousins tore down this:



and it was eventually replaced with this:




You can have both something out of glass, concrete and still be respective of the context of the more traditional structures to the north and east of this site. The original Mid-century Modern would have suited well if it were rehabilitated properly AFTER the Recession and created an interesting dynamic with some of the more contemporary projects along Peachtree- including the Windsor over Peachtree.

That being said it seems that the DRC is forgetting how this area has transformed into a mix of styles and they should be embracing some diversity if designed well; the project was just lacking a lot of details and resolve to justify bringing it to the DRC at this moment.

[Verge]

Originally Posted by West Peachtree

Midtown-Atlantic Station-Westside-GA Tech-Home Park


Under Construction
Atlantic House | 32-stories, 407 apartments, 11,500 SF Retail [WEBCAM]

Modera Midtown | 29 stories, 350 apartments, 12,300 SF Retail

Square on Fifth | 25-stories, 230 Apartments, 14,000 SF office, 4,700 SF retail space, Square on Fifth Opens Summer 2015

Yoo on the Park | 25 stories, 249 apartments

Azure on the Park | 25 stories, 330 apartments

University House Midtown | 21 stories, 267 Student Apartments, 10,000 SF retail [Virtual Video]

Alta Midtown - 33 Peachtree Place | 21 stories, 369 Apartments, 19,000 SF retail [WEBCAM]

60 11th Street | 20 stories, 319 residential units, 14,000 sf retail

782 Peachtree Street | 12 Stories, 294 apartments, 6,300 SF retail

Seventh Midtown | 9-stories, 20 Condos - 5,000 SF retail| Seventh Midtown [WEBCAM]

One Museum Place | 48 condo units | One Museum Place [WEBCAM]

1010 West Peachtree | 6 stories, 328 apartments, 14,600 SF retail

Broadstone Terraces - 811 Juniper | 6 - stories, 218 apartments

Emory Proton Treatment Center | 115,000 square foot center, 7,000 sf retail

Modera Morningside - Piedmont & Cheshire Bridge 359 Apartments | 31,500 SF retail including Sprouts Fresh Market

Heights at West Midtown 507 Bishop Street | 300 Apartments

Aspire Waterworks | 181 apartments

The Brady 930 Howell Mill Rd | 230 Apartments, 9,000 sf Retail Opens Summer 2015

The Local - 455 Fourteenth Street | 360 apartments in two buildings with a shared parking deck

1071 Howell Mill | 13,000 sf Retail

Westside Ironworks | 18,000 sf Retail

5th & Piedmont | Renovation of historic home to 6 townhomes

Ansley Green | 6 condo units | Ansley Green

Ansley at Piedmont | 7 Luxury Townhomes




PROPOSED



Proposed

98 14th Street - Tower C | 60-stories, 350 residential units, 270 room hotel, 2 levels-retail
98 14th Street - Tower B | 57-stories, 500 residential units, 2 levels-retail
98 14th Street - Tower A | 37-stories, 500 residential units, 2 levels-retail

1138 Peachtree | 51-stories, 370 apartments, 39,000 SF retail

1125 Peachtree | 50-stories, 300 apartments, 180 condos, retail

Eviva Peachtree | 45 stories, ~400 apartments, ~20,000 SF retail (The project is being redesigned due an easement dispute)

Peachtree & 17th Street | 45 stories, 11 stories, 206 apartments, 140 guestrooms, 190,000 sf Office, 12,000 sf retail

22 14th Street | 36 stories, 400 Apartments, 6,500 SF retail

Amli Arts Center | 30 stories, 351 apartments, 3,400 SF Retail

Ascent Midtown | 27 stories, 350 apartments, 5,000 sf retail

Georgia Tech High Performance Computing Center | 24 stories, 620,000 sf office space, 100,000 sf data center, 42,000 sf retail

Post Midtown Millennium 33 11th Street | 23 stories, 356 apartments

880 West Peachtree | 22 stories, 356 apartments, 10,000 SF retail

Alta at the Park | 19 stories, 198 residential units

Azure on the Park - 10th Street Tower | 18 stories, 164 condos

Hampton Inn - 1231 W Peachtree St | 18 stories, 152 rooms

Ascent Midtown hotel 1400 West Peachtree | 18 stories, 200 guest rooms

1117 Spring Street | 17 stories, 200,000 SF medical office building

NCR Corporate Campus @ Centergy North | Current plans are for 8 - 10 story office buildings and possibly a hotel

T3 - 300 17th Street| 7 stories, 220,000 SF office building

Westside Heights 903 Huff Road

464 Bishop Street 232 apartments
1055 Brady Ave 380 apartments, 15,000 SF retail
Stockyards Atlanta 130,000 SF office / retail

Bold plans under Proposed should ber moved to Under Construction (Not entirely sure about Alta and Azure on the Park?)

[shivtim]

The Whole Foods at 22 14th (Related group site in Midtown) submitted for a building permit today.

Hedgewood Homes applied for building permits for townhomes at 655 Lambert, just south of where 85 crosses Piedmont. The original re-zoning plan called for 20 townhomes, 40 SFHs, and 18 live/work units.

[BunkyWay]

Originally Posted by arctk2014

Ironically Cousins tore down this:

Ah, yes - Fox Plaza. Someone whose hobby it is to do so should create a view of the Midtown skyline with all projects proposed since 2005 (i.e., Met Center, Uptown Atlanta, 1400 Peachtree, etc.).


For the Proton Center, if Emory is associated with this project, why can't it lend its deep pockets to get that thing finished?

[arctk2014]

Originally Posted by BunkyWay

Ah, yes - Fox Plaza. Someone whose hobby it is to do so should create a view of the Midtown skyline with all projects proposed since 2005 (i.e., Met Center, Uptown Atlanta, 1400 Peachtree, etc.).


For the Proton Center, if Emory is associated with this project, why can't it lend its deep pockets to get that thing finished?

It's kind of hard to start a campaign fund for a project in litigation- particularly if Emory was just the operator rather than developer/owner of the center.

[jsvh]

Turner mulls major changes at CNN Center, Techwood campuses | www.ajc.com

...The parent of cable networks CNN, TBS and TNT, stressed its planning is just beginning, but Turner told employees Friday it is “evaluating” upgrades to the office space and atrium mall at CNN Center, one of Atlanta’s top tourist destinations and a familiar entryway for Hawks fans into Philips Arena. The company also announced plans to sell its 50 percent stake in the Omni hotel attached to the complex.

The planning coincides with negotiations between the city and Hawks over extensive renovations to Philips, and as the Hawks consider development of a potential entertainment district around the arena. That future entertainment district appears to be central to Turner’s thinking of its CNN Center renovations.

“As we participate with the City and the community to bring this vision to fruition, we will augment our planning work to include a closer look at how we may use CNN Center in the future, and how it fits into this newly declared Entertainment District as part of our ongoing evaluation of Turner’s real estate footprint,” Turner Chief Financial Officer Pascal Desroches said in a statement to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution...

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by arctk2014

Ironically Cousins tore down this:



and it was eventually replaced with this:




You can have both something out of glass, concrete and still be respective of the context of the more traditional structures to the north and east of this site. The original Mid-century Modern would have suited well if it were rehabilitated properly AFTER the Recession and created an interesting dynamic with some of the more contemporary projects along Peachtree- including the Windsor over Peachtree.

That being said it seems that the DRC is forgetting how this area has transformed into a mix of styles and they should be embracing some diversity if designed well; the project was just lacking a lot of details and resolve to justify bringing it to the DRC at this moment.

This was an utter disaster tearing that down.