Canadian LRT/RT projects U/C - Page 27

SkahHigh · #**521** Posted **Mar 17, 2016, 3:16 AM**

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The Deux-Montagnes line also looks like a very promising RER route. I'm guessing the tunnel under the mountain is pretty deep; but if its feasible, building connections to McGill and Édouard-Montpetit metro stations would be a great addition to such a project.

It was already studied for Edouard-Montpetit and the depth difference is too big unfortunately.

1overcosc · #**522** Posted **Mar 17, 2016, 4:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh

It was already studied for Edouard-Montpetit and the depth difference is too big unfortunately.

Has a connection to the Green line at McGill ever been studied? I imagine it would be a lot shallower there.

Metro-One · #**523** Posted **Mar 17, 2016, 9:18 AM**

A couple pictures of testing on the Evergreen Line in Coquitlam.

More pics in the link.

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Photos by Richard Stewart, here, and more.

Video on his profile a few posts down.

SkahHigh · #**524** Posted **Mar 17, 2016, 11:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by 1overcosc

Has a connection to the Green line at McGill ever been studied? I imagine it would be a lot shallower there.

I don't think so.

A small update on the LRT/RT situation in Montreal:

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Talks on light-rail networks in Montreal to carry on in secret

Discussions on whether to construct light-rail lines on the new Champlain bridge and connecting downtown Montreal to Trudeau airport and the West Island are about to start between the city of Montreal and the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec, but in secret.

Montreal’s city executive committee passed a resolution on Wednesday approving a confidentiality agreement with the province’s public pension fund manager, which the Quebec government authorized last year to take over the planning for the two light-rail lines from the Agence métropolitaine de transport (AMT).

The Caisse has created a subsidiary, CDPQ Infra, to manage the two projects. The projects were the subject of studies carried out by the AMT and the city, and the information in them is confidential, an executive summary accompanying the resolution says. The city had a non-disclosure agreement with the AMT as well, it adds.

The first step in the discussions between the city and CDPQ Infra is a mutual confidentiality agreement before they discuss the results of the studies, the summary says. Signing such an agreement, it says, is normal practice on major projects.

The province has estimated the two transit lines would cost $5 billion.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...tworks-in-montreal-to-carry-on-in-secret

Rico Rommheim · #**525** Posted **Mar 17, 2016, 1:43 PM**

Just build it. I don't care how evil the process becomes. Just. Fooken. Build the rail lines already.

Aylmer · #**526** Posted **Mar 17, 2016, 2:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh

It was already studied for Edouard-Montpetit and the depth difference is too big unfortunately.

Actually, IIRC, the study said it was feasible, that it would cost $200M, but that it was not a priority for the AMT.

It would be some 70m under the station, but that isn't unheard of: Stations like Washington's Forest Glen are just as deep and use a half dozen high-speed, high-capacity elevators to ferry passengers to and fro.

If ever the AMT does decide to go RER with high frequencies, a Édouard-Montpetit station transform mobility on the other side of Mount Royal: going from downtown to UdeM, one of Canada's largest universities, would go from 30 minutes to fewer than 5. That is MASSIVE!

SkahHigh · #**527** Posted **Apr 10, 2016, 2:15 AM**

Glad they went with the LRT line, much greater potential.

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'It's a farce': West Island lobbyists concerned about Train de l'Ouest's future

A coalition of West Island mayors is worried about the future of the Train de l'Ouest.
They’ve long been pushing for passenger lines linking downtown to Ste-Anne de Bellevue.
A new interview with Premier Philippe Couillard glaringly omits the project, suggesting Quebec has other plans.

In a mid-term interview with La Presse, Couillard said the green light will soon be given to the Caisse de depot et placement du Quebec for two major electric public transportation projects that were announced last year, at an estimated cost of $5 billion.
One electric train will leave downtown Montreal to get to Trudeau Airport, and one will travel over the Champlain Bridge.
Couillard also spoke of the extension for the Montreal metro’s blue line.

West Island lobbyists for the Train de l'Ouest project say they're very concerned this may mean there's not enough money left for a new dedicated train along the existing Vaudreuil line. Their plan would include more stations and double the amount of departures along that corridor.

Clifford Lincoln, former MNA and head of the Train de l’Ouest coalition, has been lobbying for the service for years.

"It's a farce," said Lincoln. "If it means that it services the airport only and leaves out Pointe-Claire, Beaconsfield and Ste-Anne's residents, then it’s a farce. If it doesn't service our industrial sites, it’s a farce."

Lincoln has held many meetings with the Quebec government, and long battled for better train service for the western suburbs.

"We're always coming in last, and we're getting fed up. I tell you, we've fought very hard for something that is justified, for years and years our citizens have been asking for. It's almost as if our citizens don't count in the equation."

Baie-d'Urfé Mayor Maria Tutino said Couillard has been in their corner.

“The train de l'Ouest is a project that the government of Quebec, including the premier, has been openly, publicly, and financially supportive of.

The premier's office could not be reached for comment Saturday.

In the La Presse interview, he touts the airport rail line, saying it will "improve the quality of life for residents of the West Island."

Airport authority Aéroports de Montreal endorsed alternate route to Dorval, which would then travel north to Dollard, stopping near Fairview in Pointe-Claire.

The Caisse reportedly may not build beyond the airport any time soon, however, another point of concern for West Island mayors.
“All I can say is that the West Island doesn't stop at the airport. That's not what we consider the West Island,” said Beaconsfield Mayor Georges Bourelle.
Tutino is demanding answers from local MNAs.
“I'm expecting the government to say, ‘Don’t worry, be happy. That is the Caisse's solution, now here's the government's solution and the Train de l'Ouest will be done by 2020,’” she said.
The announcement on a final project is expected as early as next month.

With a report from La Presse Canadienne

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/it-s-a-farce-...bout-train-de-l-ouest-s-future-1.2852382

GreaterMontréal · #**528** Posted **Apr 10, 2016, 11:51 AM**

The LRT in Montréal will be, basically, 2 Canada Line . La Caisse owns 33% of the Canada Line.

MalcolmTucker · #**529** Posted **Apr 11, 2016, 3:47 PM**

In financing entirely different. In construction and operation, sure.

SkahHigh · #**530** Posted **Apr 11, 2016, 6:07 PM**

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In financing entirely different. In construction and operation, sure.

I believe he was talking about the technology employed, although we're not entirely sure yet.

GreaterMontréal · #**531** Posted **Apr 11, 2016, 8:16 PM**

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I believe he was talking about the technology employed, although we're not entirely sure yet.

Avec une projection du ridership à 90,000 sur Champlain, ça en prendrait pas beaucoup sur le reste de la ligne pour avoir le même nombre que la Canada Line, qui était de 136,000 en 2011. aujourd'hui on a 20,000 déplacements par voitures et 22,000 par transport en commun.

Ontario1 · #**532** Posted **Apr 17, 2016, 5:34 AM**

King Street railway overpass for Waterloo Region's ION LRT project.
(photo by Me)

Ontario1 · #**533** Posted **Apr 17, 2016, 5:51 AM**

Filling in the LRT tracks with concrete at Charles and Benton in Kitchener.
(Photo by Me)

Ontario1 · #**534** Posted **Apr 17, 2016, 6:17 AM**

https://www.facebook.com/rideION/?fref=photo

ssiguy · #**535** Posted **Apr 18, 2016, 5:37 AM**

Are these Montreal LRT lines going to be real rapid transit like Calgary's CTrain or just glorified streetcars like Toronto's Finch LRT?

gunnar777 · #**536** Posted **Apr 18, 2016, 8:05 AM**

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Are these Montreal LRT lines going to be real rapid transit like Calgary's CTrain or just glorified streetcars like Toronto's Finch LRT?

My understanding is: neither. The "LRT" is somewhat of a misnomer here (not to open up the RT/LRT debate yet again). Functionally, this system is likely to resemble Vancouver's Skytrain, which makes it a metro, although with its smaller trainsets, some will call it "mini-metro".

SkahHigh · #**537** Posted **Apr 18, 2016, 12:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by gunnar777

My understanding is: neither. The "LRT" is somewhat of a misnomer here (not to open up the RT/LRT debate yet again). Functionally, this system is likely to resemble Vancouver's Skytrain, which makes it a metro, although with its smaller trainsets, some will call it "mini-metro".

Yep, they should be grade-separated.