Winnipeg | 300 Main St.- Phase II 360 Main St. | 465 Ft | 42F | Completed - Page 23

optimusREIM · #**441** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 2:15 PM**

I'm embarrassed to live in the same city as these people.

Urban recluse · #**442** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 2:18 PM**

Pitied or pounded? I am not sure anymore.

Cyro · #**443** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 2:24 PM**

Edited and scaled all photos by Artis REIT
Added to OP as well:

Other Conceptual Renders From: Artis REIT

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300 Main St.

Looking South on Main St.

Image Sources: http://www.artisreit.com/360-main-building-envelope-300-main-announcement/

Cyro · #**444** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 2:26 PM**

^This is the best we have at the moment.

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Originally Posted by harls

When (or where) can I see a glorious rendering of this place?

esquire · #**445** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 2:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

I don't think you can read too much into the specifics of the skywalks or other connections from the renders. These renders were produced in China and are created to showcase the main stars of the show, the buildings. I would have to believe that all of the little things will be looked at.

Given that construction is less than a year off according to Artis' timelines, how long will it take to settle on building height? You'd think there would be a narrower range by now than simply saying 30-50 storeys. I have to admit it would be a bit of a downer if this tower ended up clocking in at less than 40 floors.

Cyro · #**446** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 2:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by jimj_wpg

PS: It's nice to have the 3000x3000 pixel images here, but for discussion purposes, how do we go about downsizing them to more manageable viewing size?

Save the pictures to your computer. Edit them with a program of your choosing. Upload them to a photo sharing account of your choice. Add the link from your photo sharing account to your post > Easy.

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Originally Posted by Biff

I would like to ask that when the actual construction starts on 360 Main that we create individual threads for each project. The reclad project is very significant in its own right, construction and engineering. And here in Winnipeg we don't get too many chances to have a 40 stores tower thread.....just my suggestion.

I here you Biff.

BigG · #**447** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 2:34 PM**

Thanks for that Cyro.

biguc · #**448** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 3:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Totally agree on the drug tests. Shipping people out of province is kind of silly. Saskatchewan recently bought two guys one way bus tickets to BC. Sort of stirred up controversy how one province is dumping their — on another province. We would all just be shipping each others scum back and forth forever.

If we start drug testing, at first people will be huge failures. Probably leaching off homeless shelters. But after a while people with either wake up or die basically.

You guys understand that the bureaucracy behind drug testing everyone looking for a hand up would cost waaaay more than just giving people money

bomberjet · #**449** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 3:36 PM**

The system doesn't work. Currently people go out and get totally smashed on their welfare cheques. A lot of people. They wait for two weeks until their next cheque. Go and get smashed again. Kids are running wild, no food. Go piss off. Such a drain on society.

Something needs to be done. Anyways off topic from this great project.

Cyro · #**450** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 3:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

The system doesn't work. Currently people go out and get totally smashed on their welfare cheques. A lot of people. They wait for two weeks until their next cheque. Go and get smashed again. Kids are running wild, no food. Go piss off. Such a drain on society.

Something needs to be done. Anyways off topic from this great project.

Thx for the course correction on topics , You guys are really messing with my brain here..

jmt18325 · #**451** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 3:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

I would like to ask that when the actual construction starts on 360 Main that we create individual threads for each project. The reclad project is very significant in its own right, construction and engineering. And here in Winnipeg we don't get too many chances to have a 40 stores tower thread.....just my suggestion.

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Originally Posted by Cyro

I hear you Biff.

According to whomever from Artis REIT was being interviewed by Richard Cloutier this morning, the re clad of 360 started this week. You can see people setting up hanging equipment on the west side. That project will take one year. The east side will take another year.

bomberjet · #**452** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 3:48 PM**

I noticed the ropes hanging down. Figured it was window washers. They're really moving with this one!

drew · #**453** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 3:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Given that construction is less than a year off according to Artis' timelines, how long will it take to settle on building height? You'd think there would be a narrower range by now than simply saying 30-50 storeys. I have to admit it would be a bit of a downer if this tower ended up clocking in at less than 40 floors.

Apparently the issue with the final height has to do with whatever magic the structural engineers can manage using the existing core that was poured.

From what I understand, it is strong enough to go up to about 40 floors, but REIT wants to go higher.

CoryB · #**454** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 3:54 PM**

Interesting that those renders have Graham expanded to five lanes between Main and Fort

esquire · #**455** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 4:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by drew

Apparently the issue with the final height has to do with whatever magic the structural engineers can manage using the existing core that was poured.

From what I understand, it is strong enough to go up to about 40 floors, but REIT wants to go higher.

That's encouraging. I get that downtown would probably benefit more from having 5 new 8-storey buildings vs. one 40 storey tower, but since Artis is proceeding with this project I might as well hope it gets built to the tallest height possible for the site.

Not that it matters a whole lot in the grander scheme of things, but I'm assuming that it may not then be the city's tallest if it clocks in at 40 storeys?

BigG · #**456** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 4:07 PM**

I get this strange feeling that there will soon be a contest of the rich and influential, in this city, as to who has the biggest phallus. Bring it on I say!

Spocket · #**457** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 4:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by drew

Apparently the issue with the final height has to do with whatever magic the structural engineers can manage using the existing core that was poured.

From what I understand, it is strong enough to go up to about 40 floors, but REIT wants to go higher.

I would think that since foundation is already stabilized they would only need to reinforce the columns if they want to go higher. On the other hand, I'm not an engineer and while my — always sounds like a great source, wisdom suggests otherwise.

bomberjet · #**458** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 4:09 PM**

Core some additional cassions through the undergrounds floor, in strategic locations. Then make magic happen with a hybrid old and new foundation.

The existing caissons in the ground will be designed to handle a certain load. Sounds like either they or the structure in the underground, are at the limit with 40 storeys above. Likely both were designed to a certain loading, which was reached at 40 storeys.

Urban recluse · #**459** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 4:11 PM**

Wanting to go higher is fantastic. I hope it can be done.

esquire · #**460** Posted **Apr 8, 2016, 4:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Core some additional cassions through the undergrounds floor, in strategic locations. Then make magic happen with a hybrid old and new foundation.

The existing caissons in the ground will be designed to handle a certain load. Sounds like either they or the structure in the underground, are at the limit with 40 storeys above. Likely both were designed to a certain loading, which was reached at 40 storeys.

I would have thought it'd easily be capable of accommodating a 40 storey residential tower... the initial Trizec plan was for a tower of similar height (looks like a 32ish floor office tower around the 400 ft mark in the renderings), but with a far greater footprint. Is the age of the foundation a limiting factor here?