SkyTrain Station Renovations

[nname]

If people really want to kill themselves, that barrier would not stop anything...

[Aroundtheworld]

Originally Posted by nname

If people really want to kill themselves, that barrier would not stop anything...

It wouldn't, but it would slow them down giving a bystander enough time maybe to intervene. It may also give the train enough time to stop.

Also, suicide is a fairly 'in-the-moment' thing. If it is made more difficult, the person may change their mind.

This looks like a good intermediate solution that seems fairly easy to implement.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by nname

If people really want to kill themselves, that barrier would not stop anything...

While I agree suicide barriers won't reduce suicides they are still worthwhile because each 'medical emergency' costs a lot in terms of reduced reliability and increased delays.

[mcminsen]

Another benefit of edge barriers on the platforms is to increase the capacity by allowing people to crowd right out to the edge which they naturally don't do when there's no barrier.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

It's probably a custom gate that had to be ordered and manufactured.

Then they could've waited till the gate is almost ready before shutting the entrance down, if that's the case.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by mcminsen

Okay, I've been through the Seymour entrance to Granville Station a couple of more times now and I've looked really close and the only difference I can see is this newish looking section of black grate behind the red railings. This entrance was closed for months so I was kind of disappointed to see the same old dirty and run down stairs and walls. I thought it was getting a major makeover or something. There has to be something else that would have caused them to close it for so long.


March 9 '16, my pic

Why can't this kind of fence be used more often throughout? This looks way better than the typical chain-link fences used for almost anything, including permanent barriers. One example of an ugly chain-link fence is the one used at the Nordstrom to protect some utility boxes or meters by Robson Street. Sorry a little bit of side-track there.

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by dothediu

Skytrain should look into having some of these vertical platform barriers installed. It could work with their different train lengths..and reduce the number of medical emergencies.

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http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002812159

Just using that single example:
-Ten seconds for the gates to rise
-Seven seconds for the doors to open

-Four seconds for gates to lower
-Ten seconds for the doors to close

We can ignore how long it took for the doors to close because that's up to the driver to do but the time it took for the gate to rise and drop back down is almost our average dwell time.

Originally Posted by Vin

Why can't this kind of fence be used more often throughout? This looks way better than the typical chain-link fences used for almost anything, including permanent barriers. One example of an ugly chain-link fence is the one used at the Nordstrom to protect some utility boxes or meters by Robson Street. Sorry a little bit of side-track there.

I do believe they used it for the fencing along the Evergreen Line.


Image courtesy of the BC Ministry of Transportation

[BCPhil]

Originally Posted by mcminsen

Another benefit of edge barriers on the platforms is to increase the capacity by allowing people to crowd right out to the edge which they naturally don't do when there's no barrier.

Have you ever been to Broadway-Commercial in the morning rush hour? Getting close to the platform edge to pack the platform does not seem to be a problem.

Besides, those ones seem to freak out when someone gets too close, probably to prevent your dingus from getting caught between the bars.

Also, you can't just jam platforms full of people. You need space for people on the train to get off. Or have you never been to Broadway-Commercial in the morning rush hour?

[officedweller]

I could see people rushing that type of platform barrier - trying to squeeze under it before it drops, then squeeze through the train doors...

[MIPS]

So it seems that the old "Science World - Main Street" sign has survived the renos, but where on earth is it? That doesn't look like Vancouver.


Image courtesy of ???

Image courtesy of ???

[Spork]

Nice work! How did you get the lighting so even, and what are you going to do with it now that it is done?

[MIPS]

It's fluorescent!



Neon Products Ltd. built all the original signage but they've been out of business for years so instead I had to work with photos from the demolition and figure out what arrangement worked best on my own. I had contacted the TRAMS society about it and a few other people but nobody seemed interested. Looks like it's going to hang in basement rec room for now.

Anyways, pardon the derail but the weather got nice enough that it could be finished.

[dothediu]

did you buy or win that sign?

[MIPS]

I contacted the procurement department and eventually I was directed towards the demo crew who got it and the rest of the metalwork they pulled out of the station as scrap.

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by MIPS

It's fluorescent!



Neon Products Ltd. built all the original signage but they've been out of business for years so instead I had to work with photos from the demolition and figure out what arrangement worked best on my own. I had contacted the TRAMS society about it and a few other people but nobody seemed interested. Looks like it's going to hang in basement rec room for now.

Anyways, pardon the derail but the weather got nice enough that it could be finished.

I'd probably have used LED lights (less power, brighter, won't degrade the pigments as fast), but that's still amazing.

[Metro-One]

That is so awesome.

My brain is having a problem now and I can't remember if I was actually there when you picked that up (part of an SSP meet or by some strange coincidence I know you) or if it was just here on SPP I saw you talking about it. But my brain keeps making me want to think that I actually touched it and noted on the slightly bent corner below "Street."

Am I getting that old??

[officedweller]

Check this out - from Via Architecture Twitter:

Truss for Metrotown Station posted April 6, 2016.
So the "flatter" skylight adjacent to the peaked trusses will still have a shallower peaked roof, based on the steel below:


It's exciting to see the loop truss progress for our #Metrotown #SkyTrain Station Upgrades Project!
https://twitter.com/viaarchitecture

Originally Posted by urbancanadian

Here are the latest renderings of Metrotown Station. I can't find the link online anymore, but they're from Translink at the December 2014 open house.

[Aroundtheworld]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Check this out - from Via Architecture Twitter:

Truss for Metrotown Station posted April 6, 2016.
So the "flatter" skylight adjacent to the peaked trusses will still have a shallower peaked roof, based on the steel below:


It's exciting to see the loop truss progress for our #Metrotown #SkyTrain Station Upgrades Project!
https://twitter.com/viaarchitecture

It seems like the station will be quite spectacular when the renos are done. Main St.-Science World has turned out very well in my opinion.

[Spork]

At Joyce, they have dug several holes for footings/columns and the elevator with rebar now in place. Looking at the information boards, I believe that the platform is going to be extended, as this will be required in order to meet up with where I suspect the elevator is going. This also makes sense in that there are temporary catwalks installed on the outside of the track structure itself, quite a ways down the track. It also makes sense to do an extension now and be able to leave the station alone for another 30 years.

[Waders]

Originally Posted by officedweller

It's exciting to see the loop truss progress for our #Metrotown #SkyTrain Station Upgrades Project!
https://twitter.com/viaarchitecture

Thanks for the links. It would be quite a task to transport the loop truss from the factory to the station location.