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Originally Posted by navyweaxguy
Elitches is one of the only unique things about downtown. Besides, what would go in there? More 5-7 story stick apartments. Blah! Downtown isn't family friendly as it is and now you want to make it even less so.
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Originally Posted by navyweaxguy
See it being the only downtown that has one is exactly my point. It is a destinationn. No matter where they would move it to you can't get better access to public transit and 2 major interstates. It is the only thing in Downtown Denver that makes it unique. Otherwise Denver is just a plain Jane regular city. Besides, why would they spend a few hundred million to move it to a new location that will only be used 3 months out of the year? And have to add all the transit options.
i would rather it be closed completely than see it moved a second time.
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Awesome comments, I wholeheartedly agree.
With the densification of downtown AND it's surrounding neighborhoods with more and more residents you need amenities to create/maintain an interesting social fabric. It's adds activity and character beyond being just bricks and mortar.
Stonemans_rowJ... You need family friendly options for those that aren't constipated Caucasian folk too. Otherwise the city becomes very stale and boring.
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Originally Posted by corey
The Pepsi Center was a bad design from day one. You can tell it was designed in the mindset of a Walmart developer, Kroenke, the way it is surrounded by parking lots. Charlotte, Sacramento, and even NYC's Madison Square Gardens (the demolition of Penn Station not-withstanding) are much more successful designs for a truly urban arena.
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You could also add the Barclay's Center in Brooklyn.
FWIW, Kroenke had zero, zip, nada to do with the development of the current arena. It was the city and previous ownership that spearheaded the move and construction of a new arena. In fact, Stan's brother-in-law was one of the early prospective owners. Ground was broken in 1997 and planning for the move took several years. AT THAT TIME, urban density/design was the last thing on anybody's mind although the design was considered contemporary at the time.
Finding new ownership became problematic b/c the city was insistent on rock solid language that would guarantee the future of the franchise and location for 25 years. If you lose your shorts, too bad, sell it to somebody else. Stan Kroenke eventually stepped up to meet everybody's needs and while he does own the improvements the city still holds a ground lease underneath. There exists an option to buy the land at the end of 25 years for one American dollar.
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Originally Posted by wong21fr
He's also in it for the long play- I see Elitch's as more of a long-term development opportunity for Kroenke and he might look at the area as an entertainment district with amusement park, stadium, bars, restaurants, hotels, etc. rather than an extension of downtown.
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I think you got the ticket.
Obviously the site is big enough that you'd expect some mid-rise development but why not retain the "cha-ching cha-ching" of retail and entertainment $'s?
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