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The first two is fog being made over top Hamilton Harbour/Lake Ontario. Kinda cool.

The last photo looks like a monorail track going into City Hall.
     
     
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Very nice skyline, but the drop off to low density suburbia outside the core is palpable.


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Very nice skyline, but the drop off to low density suburbia outside the core is palpable.


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All I will say is that it appears worse from this angle because a) DT is in a valley and thus what you are seeing as suburbia in this pic is kms away and b) The northside of DT is cut off by the river. It is weird though how the Beltline to the south extends a very long distance but the north side goes pretty quickly into suburbia. Thankfully that is beginning to change as areas like Bridgeland and Kensington (neither of which can be seen from this angle) have started building up with 6 to 10 story buildings.
     
     
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Very cool Hamilton photos. Love the red brick cityscape.
     
     
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Awesome aerial shot of eastern Metro Van there. Really shows how close the mountains are too
     
     
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That's a cool shot of Surrey.
     
     
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Very nice skyline, but the drop off to low density suburbia outside the core is palpable.


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This retort is not aimed at MolsonExport alone. I don't understand this dumb attitude to an urban form that has simply been produced by the circumstantial history of the city in question. So we all like dense big cities. So what? Pointing out an obvious trait of Calgary over and over again . . . does this have an interesting point to it? Everybody can see it for themselves.

Calgary is what it is. What I actually find interesting is watching this city grow into the low density areas that surround the massive office dominated core. Calgary has begun building larger buildings with a broader range of uses than in the past. It seems to be this that is propelling the expansion of the larger scale into these singular traditional small city neighborhoods. This is a process that hasn't happened, in quite this way, in any Canadian city before. We should all look forward to what will result in the years to come. Calgary has no choice but to evolve in ever more interesting ways.

The Surrey photo is very cool. That view and the one you get while driving around on its streets are quite different. This might be no more than a mental construct, but it looks so much richer and complex from the air.
     
     
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This retort is not aimed at MolsonExport alone. I don't understand this dumb attitude to an urban form that has simply been produced by the circumstantial history of the city in question. So we all like dense big cities. So what? Pointing out an obvious trait of Calgary over and over again . . . does this have an interesting point to it? Everybody can see it for themselves.

Calgary is what it is. What I actually find interesting is watching this city grow into the low density areas that surround the massive office dominated core. Calgary has begun building larger buildings with a broader range of uses than in the past. It seems to be this that is propelling the expansion of the larger scale into these singular traditional small city neighborhoods. This is a process that hasn't happened, in quite this way, in any Canadian city before. We should all look forward to what will result in the years to come. Calgary has no choice but to evolve in ever more interesting ways.
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/\ amazing Toronto pic there. So impressive.

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This retort is not aimed at MolsonExport alone. I don't understand this dumb attitude to an urban form that has simply been produced by the circumstantial history of the city in question. So we all like dense big cities. So what? Pointing out an obvious trait of Calgary over and over again . . . does this have an interesting point to it? Everybody can see it for themselves.

Calgary is what it is. What I actually find interesting is watching this city grow into the low density areas that surround the massive office dominated core. Calgary has begun building larger buildings with a broader range of uses than in the past. It seems to be this that is propelling the expansion of the larger scale into these singular traditional small city neighborhoods. This is a process that hasn't happened, in quite this way, in any Canadian city before. We should all look forward to what will result in the years to come. Calgary has no choice but to evolve in ever more interesting ways.

The Surrey photo is very cool. That view and the one you get while driving around on its streets are quite different. This might be no more than a mental construct, but it looks so much richer and complex from the air.

I do understand the insistence on optimism, as even a forum of "wow, another hit for Edmonton" or whatever would probably be better than one full of sniping and backbiting and regional angst.

To resolve that our choice is this binary, though, is a bit unambitious. Negative comment has its place. We are not the cities we live in or identify with, and as such these entities should be able to absorb even pointed criticism without people flying off the handle.

If you like big, dense cities of a traditional sort, a skyline shot of Calgary or for that matter Los Angeles or Nizhny Novgorod is not going to be a portrait that prompts unalloyed praise.

While we all understand the many forces that produced the North American single-family home neighbourhood, from colonial English tradition to cheap gas and including many others, the idea that this understanding should supercede aesthetic criticism of cities made up of this dwelling-type at the expense of others is one whose essence lies in thin-skinned boosterism.

That photograph of Calgary shows a dramatic, contemporary skyline whose impact (in terms of signalling the presence of a large, complex city) is undercut, for me, by the thinness of its surrounding houses. The circumstances, all easily graspable, that produced Calgary have left it wanting in the area of residential vernacular.

Maybe it will improve – if so, great. Maybe it is improving – if so, I am curious. But there is nothing wrong with commenting negatively on things as they stand.

I understand the forces that coalesced to produce Warhol's soup can, too, but I still prefer Goya and Caravaggio. Others don't.

There is something wrong with the idea that strong negative comment is bad. This is a forum.
     
     
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Jesus. And I complimented the skyline. The bigger the boosterism, the thinner the skin, it would seem.
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We are not the cities we live in or identify with, and as such these entities should be able to absorb even pointed criticism without people flying off the handle.
I think this is a source of confusion for some of us on here.
     
     
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Awesome toronto pic. Where is it taken from?
     
     
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Jesus. And I complimented the skyline. The bigger the boosterism, the thinner the skin, it would seem.
Come on Molson. I pointed out the context of the photo (that the area adjacent to DT cannot be seen because of the valley and that what you are seeing is actually quite a bit farther away) and someone from Vancouver pointed out the obvious reason for our city's built form. This was hardly civic boosterism. If anything I find the other side has thin skin as any attempt to have a conversation or explain context is met with accusations of boosterism. I'm not sure if it's insecurity about 'upstart Calgarians' and our disproportionately large skyline, but Montreal forumers in particular seem to snipe the most. They're both beautiful cities but in completely different ways. If you love grit and density Calgary is obviously much sparser for both. If you love traditional taller Northt American skylines then Calgary has the clear advantage. You can't compare a city that's over 3 centuries old and three times the size with one that's a third of that.
     
     
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Come on Molson. I pointed out the context of the photo (that the area adjacent to DT cannot be seen because of the valley and that what you are seeing is actually quite a bit farther away) and someone from Vancouver pointed out the obvious reason for our city's built form. This was hardly civic boosterism. If anything I find the other side has thin skin as any attempt to have a conversation or explain context is met with accusations of boosterism. I'm not sure if it's insecurity about 'upstart Calgarians' and our disproportionately large skyline, but Montreal forumers in particular seem to snipe the most. They're both beautiful cities but in completely different ways. If you love grit and density Calgary is obviously much spared for both. If you love traditional taller Northt American skylines then Calgary has the clear advantage. You can't compare a city that's over 3 centuries old with one that's just over one.
I have shat on unflattering photographs of Laval, Montreal, London, Mississauga, and a score of other cities, but somehow this doesn't raise any hackles. Just Calgary. Always Calgary. Always.

And goddammit, I complimented the skyline. It is a beautiful photograph.

You got to admit, Calgary stands head and shoulders above, as the one place where, for some forumers, the boosterism knows no bounds. That is what rankles people.

did I make a comparison to landlocked Montreal?
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