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Street Advocate · #**17581** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 9:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

Terrible - that's the LAST thing Downtown needs. Kind of par for the course in the area, though.

Downtown doesn't need new residents? Or are you speaking to the design of the building.

daharris80 · #**17582** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 9:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Street Advocate

From the image, there's a storefront on the ground floor and at the top of the building? Would be nice if Ivan Allen and Centennial both engaged the pedestrians instead of just one side.

"Storefront Window" as used in that rendering is a materials specification. It does not necessarily mean the window will be in front of a store. There is certainly no window fronting a store on the 12th floor. As for a ground floor store the rendering is not detailed enough to tell. In fact, if you look closely at the drawing there are no doors to the building other than the garage/service doors indicated on one side. Clearly code will require more than just one entry/exit through the garage.

AtlantaMustang · #**17583** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 10:00 PM**

I'm confused. Is this on the north or south side of Mills? Looks like the renderings would work on the north side, but the address drops at the corner.

If it's on the north side I honestly don't care what the 3 sides that aren't facing Centennial look like. No one will be walking there.

Martinman · #**17584** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 10:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

I'm confused. Is this on the north or south side of Mills? Looks like the renderings would work on the north side, but the address drops at the corner.

If it's on the north side I honestly don't care what the 3 sides that aren't facing Centennial look like. No one will be walking there.

I think it's south of Mills because the rendering from the south seems to indicate that the building is not completely square.

AtlantaMustang · #**17585** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 10:45 PM**

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I think it's south of Mills because the rendering from the south seems to indicate that the building is not completely square.

Ahh yeah, didn't notice that apparent angled wall at the base before. Shame it doesn't look to front much of the Ivan Allen corner very well, even if it is only a small portion.

cokezero · #**17586** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 11:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

I'm confused. Is this on the north or south side of Mills? Looks like the renderings would work on the north side, but the address drops at the corner.

If it's on the north side I honestly don't care what the 3 sides that aren't facing Centennial look like. No one will be walking there.

Am I the only one that sees the irony in the fact that someone is proposing to build 300 luxury apartments directly adjacent to a homeless shelter (Atlanta Union Mission) while no one will build anything within a 3 or 4 block radius of another homeless shelter (Peachtree and Pine)? That goes to show you how important the management of the facility is and how important the quality of the shelter's "treatment" programs are, be they mental health, addiction recovery, or simple career training. Atlanta Union Mission is such a great neighbor to this city that no one even realizes it's there. If only others would take note of how to properly run such a facility.

RocketSurgeon · #**17587** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 3:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by kamden99

I live in the building and this issue came up at our annual meeting back in January. Apparently, several of the light "strips" started to fail, which resulted in large burned out gaps on both corners of the building. The HOA board is working on determining the best long-term solution (as replacing all of the light strips will involve a lift truck and closing the sidewalk for a day or two). In the meantime, the lights have been turned off. I have been assured that the lights will be turned back on as soon as possible.

Glad to hear it, thanks for the info... lighting is a small detail but it can make a big difference in how a building looks

MdtwnATL · #**17588** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 5:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Downtown doesn't need new residents? Or are you speaking to the design of the building.

Definitely the design. Adding residents is great, but the street level design of that is attrocious .

Street Advocate · #**17589** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 2:12 PM**

Week old or so photo of the new building going up next to PCM and North Ave. Appears there's an escalator/stairs going to North Ave. Editing comment to show link of image, as I haven't figured out formatting here to make the image smaller http://i.imgur.com/Jp1as9l.jpg?1

testarossa50 · #**17590** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 3:47 PM**

The COP building is reminiscent of what gets built in the second-tier Florida cities.

I studied the renderings closely and it appears the apartment part of the building will be shaped like the letter F, with apartments running the full east-west axis along the north side of the building, plus two north-south runs:

There are blank walls on all but the west faces of the building. A blank wall is definitely fine on the east and north faces of the building (abutting an onramp and a minor sidestreet), but the south face needs some upgraded frontage onto Ivan Allen. At a minimum, for transit connectivity, an entrance at the southeast corner needs to be built. Heck, they don't even show anywhere near the requisite number of fire access doors.

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**17591** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 4:15 PM**

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The COP building is reminiscent of what gets built in the second-tier Florida cities.

I studied the renderings closely and it appears the apartment part of the building will be shaped like the letter F, with apartments running the full east-west axis along the north side of the building, plus two north-south runs:

There are blank walls on all but the west faces of the building. A blank wall is definitely fine on the east and north faces of the building (abutting an onramp and a minor sidestreet), but the south face needs some upgraded frontage onto Ivan Allen. At a minimum, for transit connectivity, an entrance at the southeast corner needs to be built. Heck, they don't even show anywhere near the requisite number of fire access doors.

Is it for sure only consuming that portion of the property? The article mentioned 3 acres and the full property that was listed for sale was the also north of Mills Rd and was 2.36 acres.

testarossa50 · #**17592** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 4:55 PM**

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Is it for sure only consuming that portion of the property? The article mentioned 3 acres and the full property that was listed for sale was the also north of Mills Rd and was 2.36 acres.

Not positive, but scaling off the rendering you get that the building length to width ratio is approximately 1.85:1, and the southern chunk of the site is about 380 by 200 or 1.9:1. It's tough to say without a site plan, but 15 windows/rooms would seem to fit in the 200' north-south axis pretty well. My guess is it's only the south portion.

Newnan_Eric · #**17593** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 4:59 PM**

I know the rendering could be a bit better and I have to believe that the final design will be improved, but either way, this is a great in-fill project. That lot is not the most desirable. It's an awkward shape and boxed in by the highway off-ramp and a homeless shelter. To the North is a low-rise development that is so-so. Yeah the museums are across the street to the South, but it is a busy 4-lane major thoroughfare.

I see this as a win.

Terminus · #**17594** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 5:20 PM**

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Is it for sure only consuming that portion of the property? The article mentioned 3 acres and the full property that was listed for sale was the also north of Mills Rd and was 2.36 acres.

This drawing is wrong. Mills Street is abandoned and the new project will be built to the driveway along the north side of the site, abutting Sheltering Arms. It does not extend all the way to Ivan Allen Drive.

I have seen the permit plans and attest to this.

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**17595** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 5:58 PM**

Gwinnett Place Mall area is getting rezoned to allow 25 story buildings. Could Global Station make a resurgence?

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local-govt-...25-story-buildings-near-gwinnett-/nqqW7/

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...the district would allow buildings up to 25 stories on property near the Gwinnett Place mall. That’s taller than any existing building in Georgia’s second-largest county (the tallest is the 17-story Sonesta Gwinnett Place Atlanta hotel)....

...The new zoning district would be bounded by Pleasant Hill Road to the east, I-85 to the south, Steve Reynolds Boulevard to the west and Satellite Boulevard to the north. The idea is to create a dense urban development out of the existing sprawl of suburban shopping centers...

...The district would encourage residential as well as commercial and office development. The minimum height of residential or mixed-use buildings would be five stories. But by adding amenities like multi-use paths and pedestrian boulevards, developers could build up to 25 stories...

testarossa50 · #**17596** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 6:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Terminus

This drawing is wrong. Mills Street is abandoned and the new project will be built to the driveway along the north side of the site, abutting Sheltering Arms. It does not extend all the way to Ivan Allen Drive.

I have seen the permit plans and attest to this.

So then I guess there's zero to complain about as long as there are actually retail storefronts along COP Drive. We can't expect for them to have anything other than blank walls on the south and east elevations since they don't even abut sidewalks.

Do you happen to know if there's retail along COP Drive?

Any indication what happens to the actual intersection of COP Drive and Ivan Allen?

Terminus · #**17597** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by testarossa50

So then I guess there's zero to complain about as long as there are actually retail storefronts along COP Drive. We can't expect for them to have anything other than blank walls on the south and east elevations since they don't even abut sidewalks.

Do you happen to know if there's retail along COP Drive?

Any indication what happens to the actual intersection of COP Drive and Ivan Allen?

I believe the plans only show lobby/fitness center space along COP. It's similar to what Post is doing.

I'm not sure about the COP/Ivan Allen corner. The master site plan just seems to show a future TBD building. It's probably a hotel site.

micropundit · #**17598** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 8:54 PM**

August of last year, Azar's Package Store at 271 Memorial Drive was razed to make way for The George, a 130-unit apartment complex from Urban Realty Partners.The six-story, 110,000-square-foot project will be situated on a 1.44 acre site described as "walkable" and of "new urbanist" nature: The complex will feature 11,500 square feet of retail, which is planned to include a 4,500-square-foot high-end bottle shop, 4,100-square-foot restaurant, and two additional storefronts for "neighborhood-oriented retail."
Urban Realty Partners is promoting the project as a transit-oriented development, which some may consider a stretch as it is a "five minute walk" to King Memorial MARTA Station.
https://whatnowatlanta.com/details-renderings-memorial-drives-the-george/

Ant131531 · #**17599** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 8:59 PM**

I don't think "The George" is a bad project at all....11k+ square feet of retail? That's solid. And give me a break with the "5 minute walk to MLK station". It may not be a TOD project, but it's like 3-4 blocks from the King Memorial Station? That's not a far walk. This project and the recently built "Leonard" will begin to create a nice little urban streetwall on that side.

robertjhajek · #**17600** Posted **Mar 22, 2016, 9:39 PM**

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I don't think "The George" is a bad project at all....11k+ square feet of retail? That's solid. And give me a break with the "5 minute walk to MLK station". It may not be a TOD project, but it's like 3-4 blocks from the King Memorial Station? That's not a far walk. This project and the recently built "Leonard" will begin to create a nice little urban streetwall on that side.

I agree, Memorial in 5 years is going to be an awesome area to live!