NEW YORK | 80 South Street | 1,436 FT | 113 FLOORS

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by Crawford

With over a million square feet of space, and a relatively small footprint. I hope this can top Central Park Tower. It's got a chance.

I certainly hope its to the roof. I might be asking to much, but something without a spire that can breach the CPT soon to be roof record would be nice.

At least to make up for what I'm starting to think will be a shorter than originally promised 125 Greenwich.

[artspook]

the reckless enthusiasm you knaves and wenches generate . .
It's amazing . . keep it up . . warms zee cockles of me heart . .
speakin' of warmth . . ye better hug ye hearth fires today . .
or freezeth ye skyscraper-balls off . .
'cause today she's a-gonna be colder than a . .
sorcerer's Zit in january . . so to speak . . .

[WIGGLEWORTH]

^Artspook you truly are colorful with words. I love it.
Anyhow, I think this'll be a classic spire. Probably around 1400'-1500'.

[NYguy]

The tower will be larger than it was when SHoP was first brought in. Let's hope they were retained for the larger tower...

The HHC’s proposed “Seaport District Assemblage” may even be taller than 1 World Trade Center (without the antenna) utilizing 818,000 square feet on South Street between John and Fletcher Streets. The building located at 432 Park Avenue may only briefly hold the distinction of being New York City’s largest “mega-tower” coming in at 1396’ tall with 745,174 square feet on West 56th Street.

Chinese investors pay $390 million for right to build super tower near South Street Seaport

A Chinese investment firm announced it has agreed to pay $390 million for a development site near the South Street Seaport, paving the way for the erection of yet another super-tall skyscraper in a city that is quickly sprouting 1,000-foot plus tall towers.

The Beijing-based investment company China Oceanwide Holdings released a statement confirming that a U.S. subsidiary of the firm is in contract to acquire both the site at 80 South St. and a neighboring parcel at 163 Front St. from the Howard Hughes Corp.--the developer of the nearby South Street Seaport.

A roughly 820,000 square foot building, with about 440,000 square feet of residential and 380,000 square feet of commercial space, can be developed on the combined site, which Howard Hughes bought in two separate deals and assembled together over the past year, according to city records.

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2016/02/10...aport_after_air_rights_transfer.php#more

Tall Tower May Be Coming to Seaport After Air Rights Transfer


The City Planning Commission has just approved the transfer of thousands of square feet of air rights from an adjacent lot to 80 South Street, a tipster has revealed to Curbed. The approval has also been confirmed by a City Planning Commission spokesperson.

The transfer could lead to the construction of a building spanning 1,067,350 square feet, of which slightly over 512,300 could be used for residential space according to documents submitted to the City Planning Commission.

.....China Oceanwide Holdings reportedly acquired the property at 80 South Street along with another site at 163 Front Street for $390 million in August last year from the Howard Hughes Corporation. At that time, plans for the site called for the construction of a 820,000 square foot tower—potentially designed by SHoP Architects—with 440,000 square feet of residential space.

[mrnyc]

this is the render for the maiden lane apt bldg under construction now to the south.

if you look closely to the right you can see 80 south st

from the looks of it we lose fletcher st between them - can that be true?

kinda shocking they can take a street out like that, no?!

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

this is the render for the maiden lane apt bldg under construction now to the south.

if you look closely to the right you can see 80 south st

from the looks of it we lose fletcher st between them - can that be true?

kinda shocking they can take a street out like that, no?!

That's not 80 South Street. That's another building on the same block.



http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2015/06/30/fortiss_60story_seaport_tower_is_actually_happening.php

[hunser]

Howard Hughes Corp. finalizes $390M development site sale to Chinese firm
The transaction depended on the transfer of 303,113 square feet in air rights

March 17, 2016 04:35PM


http://therealdeal.com/2016/03/17/howard...m-development-site-sale-to-chinese-firm/

After securing hundreds of thousands of additional development rights, the Howard Hughes Corp. has finalized its sale of 80 South Street to China Oceanwide Holdings.

The deal, initially announced in August, was contingent on Howard Hughes transferring an additional 303,113 square feet in air rights — after already securing 104,167 square feet — to the site, according to the sale agreement. The Chinese firm paid $390 million for the site, according to a statement released by Howard Hughes on Thursday. The City Planning Commission approved the air rights transfer in February, bringing the site’s development potential to 817,784 square feet and clearing the way for the two parties to finalize the sale.

The building is expected to be 1,436 feet and 113 stories, according to documents filed with the planning commission. The building would contain 441,077 square feet of residential space and 376,707 square feet for hotel, officce or retail use.

Howard Hughes, which is redeveloping the South Street Seaport, bought the property in 2014 for $100 million and a parcel at 173 Front Street for $24 million in 2015. — Kathryn Brenzel

[hunser]

Same height as 111W57th! Can't wait for the design!

[chris08876]

Those NIMBYs are going to have 1436 reasons to jump into the East River.

Tallest roof in lower Manhattan!

[hunser]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Those NIMBYs are going to have 1436 reasons to jump into the East River.

Tallest roof in lower Manhattan!

Yep! And there's a good chance it will end up taller (crown and/or spire)!

EDIT: the floor count is just massive! So it won't be über luxury I guess ...

[:-)]

I am going to assume that this height is nothing final. I think that the developers will shoot for something a little taller anyway(not including crown elements). If the 113 floors is true than I can't imagine it's only 1430'. They could of course just said 113 for advertising purposes.
Anyway this is great news!

[ATLksuGUY]

Originally Posted by hunser

Yep! And there's a good chance it will end up taller (crown and/or spire)!

Oh my.... Please oh please!!!!

[hunser]

Originally Posted by :-)

I am going to assume that this height is nothing final. I think that the developers will shoot for something a little taller anyway(not including crown elements). If the 113 floors is true than I can't imagine it's only 1430'. They could of course just said 113 for advertising purposes.
Anyway this is great news!

I think the 113 figure is the real floor count, since it's been filed with the commission. No advertising there.

[:-)]

12.7'/floor, not unusual but still less than I would think for a tower that I am assuming will shoot for the ultra wealthy crowd. Not to mention mechanical floors and such. Anyway, I may be getting my hopes up too much but I think it will be taller.

[chris08876]

With the mechanical and hopefully a crown or some spire, would it be bullish to say that this possibly could dethrone Nordstrom (CPT)? Lets just take the 1436' figure, and realistically, mechanical + a crown/spire could add an extra 150 ft.

If so, and I hope it happens, maybe Barnett will stop being silly and add a spire. Make it the nice 1775 ft height again or even better, dethrone 1WTC.

Hope for a skyscraper war, just like the ESB vs Chrysler. I'm hoping that figure pertains to the occupied space. If thats the case, it will be taller.

[hunser]

I agree, as I said before there's a good chance it will be taller. 113 floors is just epic, this could easily be a 1,600 footer (spire included).

[jbermingham123]

New York is seriously on fire. This marks SIX definite supertalls in Downtown alone.. SIX!!! not to mention one across the river and another few across the other river

Someone needs to find out what happened to sbarn and have him do some more of those mindblowing New York 2020 renderings he used to do back in 2012...

[Crawford]

Holy shit. This could be a 1,600 ft. tower when all is said and done.

Mods need to at least change this to 1,436 ft, as that's the minimum height we're now getting.

[Vortex11]

When would this start construction?

[manchester united]

To change the title, please !!!!!!