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Thought of this question recently. This building in Aylmer which just burned down used to house the Saudi embassy... apparently.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/suspicious-fire-saudi-arabian-embassy-1.3488538
I think that article is a little mixed up. The building in Gatineau is the former residence of the Ambassador (which could be considered an "Embassy" in an archaic use). The chancery (the office of a diplomatic mission) is on Sussex, prior to that it was in the Sun Life building, it was never in Gatineau. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_Saudi_Arabia,_Ottawa)
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I think that article is a little mixed up. The building in Gatineau is the former residence of the Ambassador (which could be considered an "Embassy" in an archaic use). The chancery (the office of a diplomatic mission) is on Sussex, prior to that it was in the Sun Life building, it was never in Gatineau. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_Saudi_Arabia,_Ottawa)
Other media have said the same thing. Probably mixed up info from the fire department.
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Geo Ottawa updated their historical aerial photos to inlcude 1928. Really neat stuff seeing how Kitchissippi was growing.
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Geo Ottawa updated their historical aerial photos to inlcude 1928. Really neat stuff seeing how Kitchissippi was growing.
It's really interesting to see what things were like before the NCC went on a demolition binge.
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Renovations to close National War Memorial for seven months

Blair Crawford, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: March 31, 2016 | Last Updated: March 31, 2016 4:43 PM EDT


The National War Memorial on Elgin Street will be off limits to the public beginning the second week of April as the 77-year-old monument undergoes a second round of repairs and renovations.

The $3.2-million project will fix damaged concrete slabs and paving around the monument and refurbish the iconic bronze statues.

The work is expected to be complete by early November, in time for Remembrance Day. Throughout the work, measures will be taken to preserve and protect the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier from damage. Workers will also try to minimize the impact on pedestrian and car traffic around the memorial.

The work is the second phase of renovations that began in 2014 when the monument was again closed to the public for months while workers repaired the concrete and reinforcing steel in a crawl space underneath. That work cost $2.975 million.

The current contract was awarded to Atwill-Morin Group of Montreal, which has also done restoration work on the Parliament buildings and Quebec City’s National Assembly.

With the slated construction, the sentry program, where two military members stand guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, will not occur this season. The Ottawa Police Service, which has a paid-duty contract to provide security for the unarmed sentries after Cpl. Nathan Cirillo was gunned down at the memorial on Oct. 22, 2014, will also not guard the site.

The War Memorial was designed by English sculptor Vernon March and officially dedicated in 1939 by King George VI to commemorate Canadian sacrifice in the First World War. It has since been rededicated to include the Second World War, Korea and the war in Afghanistan.

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This lot on the west side of Maisonneuve is now a big construction site. Not sure of the project, but it has nothing to do with the proposed Place des Peuples which on the east side of Maisonneuve.

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This lot on the west side of Maisonneuve is now a big construction site. Not sure of the project, but it has nothing to do with the proposed Place des Peuples which on the east side of Maisonneuve.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4310877,-...lIM9m6t29qDNV_fU2w4TA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Some new medium density development. I think I read it in the Gatineau Thread of the Québec forum couple months ago.
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Geo Ottawa updated their historical aerial photos to inlcude 1928. Really neat stuff seeing how Kitchissippi was growing.
Also neat to see how my supposedly "post war" suburb was already well under construction by then...
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Also neat to see how my supposedly "post war" suburb was already well under construction by then...
If a post-war suburb is defined as a neighbourhood designed and built after the Second World War characterised by curlicue streets easily traversed by car, then most of Kitchissippi ward is likely not considered a post-war suburb. But despite planning and development starting prior to the War, parts of it weren't completed until after the 40s and 50; and therefore one could still reason them as being post-war suburbs. Many houses and streets by the Civic Hospital weren't complete until the '50s.

It was still an area where people likely drove though. Several streets follow a flowing path like Island Park and Sherwood. It would be interesting to see rates of public transit ridership compared to private vehicles.

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If a post-war suburb is defined as a neighbourhood designed and built after the Second World War characterised by curlicue streets easily traversed by car, then most of Kitchissippi ward is likely not considered a post-war suburb. But despite planning and development starting prior to the War, parts of it weren't completed until after the 40s and 50; and therefore one could still reason them as being post-war suburbs. Many houses and streets by the Civic Hospital weren't complete until the '50s.

It was still an area where people likely drove though. Several streets follow a flowing path like Island Park and Sherwood. It would be interesting to see rates of public transit ridership compared to private vehicles.
I think more important than the age of the nieghbourhood layout (clearly many neighbourhoods built in the 50s were continuing projects halted by WWI or the Depression) is the age of the houses. Are the houses tightly-spaced with limited car infrastructure because it was expected most people would walk to the streetcar or the local shopping street (e.g. much of New Edinburgh) or are the houses loosely spaced with infrastructure set aside for cars because it was expected people would do their commuting and shopping by car (e.g. most of Overbrook). The former group seem to have had more luck with property values than the latter.
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Some new medium density development. I think I read it in the Gatineau Thread of the Québec forum couple months ago.
2x8 floors (according the SRC twitter video) is a bit disappointing. This can easily have 2x20 there (especially of what is proposed on the other side of Maisonneuve). Sadly this is the maximum permitted on that lot.
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I think more important than the age of the nieghbourhood layout (clearly many neighbourhoods built in the 50s were continuing projects halted by WWI or the Depression) is the age of the houses. Are the houses tightly-spaced with limited car infrastructure because it was expected most people would walk to the streetcar or the local shopping street (e.g. much of New Edinburgh) or are the houses loosely spaced with infrastructure set aside for cars because it was expected people would do their commuting and shopping by car (e.g. most of Overbrook). The former group seem to have had more luck with property values than the latter.
It depends on the area. Some definitely have the typical parking space in the front of the property, but many had parking in behind. The northern part of West Wellington used to have a lot of back lanes, but more people started parking in the front and (illegally) claimed those lanes as part of their backyards. You can still see traces of these lanes when walking down Spencer. "Southern Hintonburg" (south of Wellington) has some blocks with back lanes, but north of Wellington and Mechanicsville have no parking on the property. Otherwise, I think most of the area has parking in the front.

I don't think Wellington Street was a commercial main street until around the '50s or '60s. So at the time of the oldest aerials it was just a residential street.
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I couldn't find a generic Byward Market thread... What is happening to the big parking garage? I went to park there tonight but it was fenced off. I recall long ago there was a fantasy of it being torn down and turned into underground parking with a building on top. Is that actually happening?
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I couldn't find a generic Byward Market thread... What is happening to the big parking garage? I went to park there tonight but it was fenced off. I recall long ago there was a fantasy of it being torn down and turned into underground parking with a building on top. Is that actually happening?
http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=173327
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Some of the earliest suburbs built after World War II were actually designed prior to World War I during a failed land boom and had a grid pattern. Some of those subdivisions had some houses built and consequently streets were built. Overbrook is an example that retained the grid pattern. Some were total failures and plans were amended after World War II eliminating the grid street pattern, at least to a degree. Manor Park and the original Alta Vista were examples. The 1928 air photos show the Manor Park streets laid out although no houses existed.
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2x8 floors (according the SRC twitter video) is a bit disappointing. This can easily have 2x20 there (especially of what is proposed on the other side of Maisonneuve). Sadly this is the maximum permitted on that lot.
That would have been a good spot for Desjardin's Place des Peuples. Why does he insist on destroying the character/historical parts of Hull (also planning to buy a convent on Laurier to, you guessed it, demolish) instead of buying crappy properties on Maisonneuve or near Robert Guertin?
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Ottawa's best and worst buildings, according to you

Phil Jenkins, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 4, 2016 | Last Updated: April 4, 2016 6:00 AM EDT



The electrical substation at 1275 Carling Ave. is nominated as one of Ottawa's most attractive buildings by a reader.

“Architecture is inhabited sculpture.” When I read those four words, said by the modernist Romanian sculptor Constantin Brâncusi in a Paris café sometime before his death in 1957, they solidified the way I react to Ottawa’s ever-growing stock of buildings. An inhabited sculpture is what I wish for in a building. Something the eye can enjoy grasping, rather than skating away from. Wishes like that don’t often come true in this town.

When I put out my annual call for the highlights and lowlights of Ottawa’s 2015 crop of new buildings, I immediately received this message from a reader: “I’m sure many, like me, can’t think of a building completed in Ottawa of any size that merits the term ‘best’. On the other hand, most of what I have seen completed, at least from the outside, in 2015, merits the term ‘uninspired,’ not ‘worst.’ ” Turning to my own sidewalk observations, I’d say there is some truth in that grumpy, honest assessment.

Mind you, I also received an email from Rodney that asked of me, “While contemplating best and worst of 2015, you may want to look at The Eddy in Hintonburg (hopefully in the ‘best of’ category). It actually conforms to the Community Design Plan (a rarity), has rooftop vegetable growing, and geothermal heating and cooling. It tries to counter the blandness of Ottawa’s architecture with a little colour and some interesting geometry. It is also a LEED Platinum building.” A little research revealed that the recommendation came from a partner of the development firm that built the Eddy condo sculpture. A little bias there, perhaps. Certainly the condo has taken a design risk; I find it hard on the eyes, myself.

When I retooled the parameters of my architectural quest to simply your most and least favourite members of the Ottawa skyline from any year, the mail box began to fill. First in was this: “I nominate the apartment complex in Kanata, on the north side of the Queensway on Maritime Way, examples of ugly construction (I don’t want to use the word architecture) with no sign of fantasy or originality.” In other words, a block of blocks does not a sculpture make.

Stan, a habitual commentator and column topic suggester wrote to say, “My worst building: the Royal Bank of Canada building at the corner of Sparks and Metcalfe. Why? In my view, buildings should have a bottom, a middle, and a top. Instead, the RBC building is an anodyne white block with some bits cut out of it. No imagination, and therefore perhaps suitable for contemporary banks. The building turns a cold shoulder to the Sparks Street mall which, God knows, needs a few more welcoming store fronts. My favourite building: the electrical substation at the corner of Carling and Merivale. Why? It was built in an era when even modest, functional buildings were individually designed. This one has a bottom, a middle and a top. It has some decoration, offsetting its red brick façade. It is not big, but it is sturdy, with pleasing dimensions.” The gallery of Hydro substations dotted around town are in the sculpture class, I’d say. Hope they are here to stay.

Moiya informed me that the Chambers building on Confederation Square is her favourite, and she told me why. “Judy Crawley, Major Bond and I had hands in saving it in the 1960s. Buyers (from Switzerland I think, ) wanted to tear it down and rebuild it. They also wanted to move their building forward, closer to the road. Thank goodness the government decided to buy the building. Inside, it was mostly a sorry sight. My husband and I started to clean up some of the old lady. The rest is another story.” She went on, after voicing her fears for the coming new entrance for the National Arts Centre, to say, “There are many condos that make me shudder, it is hard to pick; I could say the Metropole near Westboro is one I do not like. It is not really because it is ugly, but mainly because it sticks out like a sore thumb.” Parts of the city are all sore thumbs, such as the southeast corner of the Byward Market on Cumberland and Rideau. Yikes.

There were many nominations either way for condos. (I’m retiring the condos on LeBreton Flats from competition this year. No more hate mail about them, please.) The tower that got the most thumbs up was The Merit, the art-deco luxury condos at the back of City Hall. Hear, hear. I get a lift from the sheer fact of it when it catches my eye; a yacht in a sea of cargo vessels.

There were one or two calls for outright demolition of some monstrosities, including several of the more Soviet shoeboxes on Tunney’s Pasture. Likewise for the Palladium (selling naming rights only works if we agree to use them) which is, I was reminded, built on an ex-navigable waterway; it may undergo a shapeshift when the LeBreton Flats stadium opens, but I fear it is here to stay.

In the final tally, your favourite is the Château Laurier, a sculpture indeed set in a park and alongside a waterway, and the least favourite is the still under construction moonraker, the Icon condo, corner of Preston and Carling. One reader suggested tilting it slightly and putting a pizza parlour at the bottom. Get it?

Phil Jenkins is an Ottawa writer. Reach him at [email protected]

http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columni...est-and-worst-buildings-according-to-you
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The electrical substation at 1275 Carling Ave. is nominated as one of Ottawa's most attractive buildings by a reader.

“Architecture is inhabited sculpture.” When I read those four words, said by the modernist Romanian sculptor Constantin Brâncusi in a Paris café sometime before his death in 1957, they solidified the way I react to Ottawa’s ever-growing stock of buildings. An inhabited sculpture is what I wish for in a building. Something the eye can enjoy grasping, rather than skating away from. Wishes like that don’t often come true in this town.

When I put out my annual call for the highlights and lowlights of Ottawa’s 2015 crop of new buildings, I immediately received this message from a reader: “I’m sure many, like me, can’t think of a building completed in Ottawa of any size that merits the term ‘best’. On the other hand, most of what I have seen completed, at least from the outside, in 2015, merits the term ‘uninspired,’ not ‘worst.’ ” Turning to my own sidewalk observations, I’d say there is some truth in that grumpy, honest assessment.

Mind you, I also received an email from Rodney that asked of me, “While contemplating best and worst of 2015, you may want to look at The Eddy in Hintonburg (hopefully in the ‘best of’ category). It actually conforms to the Community Design Plan (a rarity), has rooftop vegetable growing, and geothermal heating and cooling. It tries to counter the blandness of Ottawa’s architecture with a little colour and some interesting geometry. It is also a LEED Platinum building.” A little research revealed that the recommendation came from a partner of the development firm that built the Eddy condo sculpture. A little bias there, perhaps. Certainly the condo has taken a design risk; I find it hard on the eyes, myself.

When I retooled the parameters of my architectural quest to simply your most and least favourite members of the Ottawa skyline from any year, the mail box began to fill. First in was this: “I nominate the apartment complex in Kanata, on the north side of the Queensway on Maritime Way, examples of ugly construction (I don’t want to use the word architecture) with no sign of fantasy or originality.” In other words, a block of blocks does not a sculpture make.

Stan, a habitual commentator and column topic suggester wrote to say, “My worst building: the Royal Bank of Canada building at the corner of Sparks and Metcalfe. Why? In my view, buildings should have a bottom, a middle, and a top. Instead, the RBC building is an anodyne white block with some bits cut out of it. No imagination, and therefore perhaps suitable for contemporary banks. The building turns a cold shoulder to the Sparks Street mall which, God knows, needs a few more welcoming store fronts. My favourite building: the electrical substation at the corner of Carling and Merivale. Why? It was built in an era when even modest, functional buildings were individually designed. This one has a bottom, a middle and a top. It has some decoration, offsetting its red brick façade. It is not big, but it is sturdy, with pleasing dimensions.” The gallery of Hydro substations dotted around town are in the sculpture class, I’d say. Hope they are here to stay.

Moiya informed me that the Chambers building on Confederation Square is her favourite, and she told me why. “Judy Crawley, Major Bond and I had hands in saving it in the 1960s. Buyers (from Switzerland I think, ) wanted to tear it down and rebuild it. They also wanted to move their building forward, closer to the road. Thank goodness the government decided to buy the building. Inside, it was mostly a sorry sight. My husband and I started to clean up some of the old lady. The rest is another story.” She went on, after voicing her fears for the coming new entrance for the National Arts Centre, to say, “There are many condos that make me shudder, it is hard to pick; I could say the Metropole near Westboro is one I do not like. It is not really because it is ugly, but mainly because it sticks out like a sore thumb.” Parts of the city are all sore thumbs, such as the southeast corner of the Byward Market on Cumberland and Rideau. Yikes.

There were many nominations either way for condos. (I’m retiring the condos on LeBreton Flats from competition this year. No more hate mail about them, please.) The tower that got the most thumbs up was The Merit, the art-deco luxury condos at the back of City Hall. Hear, hear. I get a lift from the sheer fact of it when it catches my eye; a yacht in a sea of cargo vessels.

There were one or two calls for outright demolition of some monstrosities, including several of the more Soviet shoeboxes on Tunney’s Pasture. Likewise for the Palladium (selling naming rights only works if we agree to use them) which is, I was reminded, built on an ex-navigable waterway; it may undergo a shapeshift when the LeBreton Flats stadium opens, but I fear it is here to stay.

In the final tally, your favourite is the Château Laurier, a sculpture indeed set in a park and alongside a waterway, and the least favourite is the still under construction moonraker, the Icon condo, corner of Preston and Carling. One reader suggested tilting it slightly and putting a pizza parlour at the bottom. Get it?

Phil Jenkins is an Ottawa writer. Reach him at [email protected]

http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columni...est-and-worst-buildings-according-to-you
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My pick for ugliest building is the Colonel By Building at U of O. No doubt there are uglier buildings in the city, but none of them are located at such a prominent site, depressing the surroundings and blighting the view for tourists and locals alike. It is unfortunately situated at the crook of the canal where it dominates the vista for anyone travelling down the canal towards downtown. The smoke stack is certainly the worst component. The building itself could easily be improved. Changing the sickly yellowish colour of the facade would be a vast improvement. Even the smokestack could look cool (think Battersea Power Station) with a little imagination. Please, please U of O, before you build any more new buildings, do something about this one.

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If a post-war suburb is defined as a neighbourhood designed and built after the Second World War characterised by curlicue streets easily traversed by car, then most of Kitchissippi ward is likely not considered a post-war suburb. But despite planning and development starting prior to the War, parts of it weren't completed until after the 40s and 50; and therefore one could still reason them as being post-war suburbs. Many houses and streets by the Civic Hospital weren't complete until the '50s.

It was still an area where people likely drove though. Several streets follow a flowing path like Island Park and Sherwood. It would be interesting to see rates of public transit ridership compared to private vehicles.
"Post-war suburb" is a state of mind and geography, not of time, IMNSHO. There are post-war suburbs that pre-date the war, and streetcar suburbs that post-date it, some of which didn't have actual streetcars.
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