[Surrey] Park Avenue | 124m & 118m | 36 & 40 Floors | Complete - Page 29

w34lth · #**561** Posted **Mar 1, 2016, 3:56 PM**

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BTW.. does have more amenities usually push the condo prices a bit more higher ? for example Park Avenue has more amenities than Park place right.. ie. like Swimming pool , Sauna , etc. etc. so do you guys expect a 1 bedroom of similar floor height will be more expensive for Park Avenue then Park place ?

Your strata will be higher due to the swimming pool etc.

CoryHolmes · #**562** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 5:05 AM**

I also think that the extra ameneties are to help distract from the tiny suites and the number of suites per floor.

rokim99 · #**563** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 6:13 AM**

Is having 12 units per floor too much ?

Jebby · #**564** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 3:40 PM**

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Is having 12 units per floor too much ?

Yes! Way too many. I'd say the upper limit I'd be comfortable with would be 8. Optimally no more than 6.

rokim99 · #**565** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:41 PM**

Is Park avenue ONLY development that has 12 units per floor ? what about places like 3 civic plaza , university distract , station square , etc. ?

w34lth · #**566** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 5:16 PM**

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Is Park avenue ONLY development that has 12 units per floor ? what about places like 3 civic plaza , university distract , station square , etc. ?

I hope you are not doing your research on what place to purchase based on these forums.

officedweller · #**567** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 11:52 PM**

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retro_orange · #**568** Posted **Mar 3, 2016, 12:25 AM**

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Yes! Way too many. I'd say the upper limit I'd be comfortable with would be 8. Optimally no more than 6.

One Pacific in Vancouver has a whopping 33 units per floor on the lower floors. lots of neighbors to meet! and hopefully adequate elevators

officedweller · #**569** Posted **Mar 3, 2016, 2:25 AM**

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One Pacific in Vancouver has a whopping 33 units per floor on the lower floors. lots of neighbors to meet! and hopefully adequate elevators

They have multiple elevator cores on each floor from what I recall.

clee7903 · #**570** Posted **Mar 3, 2016, 2:56 AM**

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Is Park avenue ONLY development that has 12 units per floor ? what about places like 3 civic plaza , university distract , station square , etc. ?

Park Avenue: 12 units per floor
University District: 11
3 civic: 9-10

Of course these are the typical floors, not penthouse floors

rokim99 · #**571** Posted **Mar 3, 2016, 6:41 AM**

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Park Avenue: 12 units per floor
University District: 11
3 civic: 9-10

Of course these are the typical floors, not penthouse floors

So what's the big deal then ? I remember few pages back someone commented that the Park Avenue units are too crammed and that there is too many units per floor , etc. I mean 10-12 units per floor is like the norm nowadays right ? based on the current projects.. am I wrong ?

clee7903 · #**572** Posted **Mar 4, 2016, 6:31 AM**

Yeah, 10-12 is the norm for these taller buildings these days. I have seen some with 6-8 units per floor. Those units are bigger but so is the price. I personally can make do as long as it's around 550 sq feet...any smaller and it's a bit tight.

GMasterAres · #**573** Posted **Mar 4, 2016, 6:45 AM**

It's not a big deal if you don't mind camped space. If you look at a tower like Park Avenue West and its floor plate is roughly the size of Park Place except PA puts 12 units on a single floor plate vs Park Place which is 10, that is 2 additional units worth of space taken from the other 10 in essence.

So everything pound for pound is closer. Not to mention if they have 3 elevators, it is just that more delayed for people on higher floors. Park Place was bad enough with 3 elevators that at times you would wait in the lobby for 15 minutes before you could take one to the higher floors.

So in Park Avenue get used, around rush hour, to wait in the lobby 20-25 minutes for an elevator. For reference, it takes me about 25 minutes to drive from South Delta to Surrey Central so in the same time I can drive home, you stand in the lobby waiting for an elevator.

FUN TIMES.

So cramped space, long elevator delays = high density tower living.

I agree that it should be 6 units per floor, 8 in a pinch in general but that just won't happen anywhere now I'd say. The 10-12+ units per floor towers sell so why would a developer not build them they get an exponential increase in profit from extra units on a single floor.

Nites · #**574** Posted **Mar 4, 2016, 7:42 AM**

I've worked in just about all of those new condos in the Coquitlam city hall area that were built from 2005-present and the highest number of units I've seen per a floor was 10. The higher counts usually range from floor 2-10. Some these condos only have 2 elevators which is a total nightmare. With 3 elevators you can make do but to have 4 is a HUGE luxury.

Nites · #**575** Posted **Mar 7, 2016, 7:39 AM**

So what are going to be the official heights of these in meters? Because no way are they 145m and 133m considering Park Place Towers are 110m. I'm assuming 120-125m max.

rokim99 · #**576** Posted **Mar 8, 2016, 6:09 AM**

Anyone been to Park Avenue pre-completion open house ? I believe it was on last weekend... any exciting new to share ?

GMasterAres · #**577** Posted **Mar 9, 2016, 6:10 PM**

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So what are going to be the official heights of these in meters? Because no way are they 145m and 133m considering Park Place Towers are 110m. I'm assuming 120-125m max.

118m for East, 124m for west. The 133/145 was when the project was Sky Towers and they had an elaborate pointed feature at the top that gave some extra height. The current towers are the same structurally but Concord made the top flat, likely to reduce overall costs, so that shaved off a bunch.

But that's about as official as one can get based on the planning report for DVP at Surrey.

Nites · #**578** Posted **Mar 13, 2016, 9:40 AM**

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118m for East, 124m for west. The 133/145 was when the project was Sky Towers and they had an elaborate pointed feature at the top that gave some extra height. The current towers are the same structurally but Concord made the top flat, likely to reduce overall costs, so that shaved off a bunch.

But that's about as official as one can get based on the planning report for DVP at Surrey.

That sounds about right. Can we get them changed in the title?

Shift · #**579** Posted **Mar 19, 2016, 5:22 PM**

March 18. Looks like it is topped out and they are starting on the steeped roof crown.

GMasterAres · #**580** Posted **Mar 21, 2016, 4:13 AM**

Yah I walked by today and counted the floors standing next to it. It counts as topped out now they're just doing the top portion. The other tower is working on floor 18 so progressing nicely. At current pace second tower will top out in September/October.