Telus Garden | 135m, 88m | 46fl res, 22fl office | 928,000sqft | Completed

[squeezied]

Originally Posted by Vin

Vancouverism:

A phenomenon whereby architectural design excellence tones down to mediocrity, usually due to City bylaws/quirks and the affinity for seafoam spandrels and cheap mass-produced products, as well as residents with torches and pitchforks.

Do you always blab out ridiculous stuff without thinking? What role did the City play in the switching of facade materials? Is it possible that it may have been the developer? But no, for a close-minded person like you, that would be blasphemous. You've already predetermined that the City is the bad guy and the developers are the good guys with altruistic motives to lift this backwater village out of the stone age.

Please put some effort into more intelligent posts next time.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by squeezied

Do you always blab out ridiculous stuff without thinking? What role did the City play in the switching of facade materials? Is it possible that it may have been the developer? But no, for a close-minded person like you, that would be blasphemous. You've already predetermined that the City is the bad guy and the developers are the good guys with altruistic motives to lift this backwater village out of the stone age.

Please put some effort into more intelligent posts next time.

Ohhhh, as usual, all that drama.

Maybe in your zeal to crucify me, you hadn't even noticed that I did mention the City, Developer, as well as Nimby Residents. Speaking of intelligence....

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Jebby

I get the viewcone regulations and other absurdities that the UDP requests (such as "breaking up massing"), but what I don't get is things developer and architects can actually control, like the color of spandrel and the overall blandness of materials...

Seriously, I don't get it al all too. It's not like the developers can't make any money out of getting nicer or more quality materials for construction. Also, when the final product is essentially so different from initial renderings, I'm surprised noone is really raising this as an issue.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Vin

Seriously, I don't get it al all too. It's not like the developers can't make any money out of getting nicer or more quality materials for construction. Also, when the final product is essentially so different from initial renderings, I'm surprised noone is really raising this as an issue.

I sometimes wonder whether "Westbank", in Vision's lexicon, means "get out of jail free card, for life".

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by squeezied

Do you always blab out ridiculous stuff without thinking? What role did the City play in the switching of facade materials? Is it possible that it may have been the developer? But no, for a close-minded person like you, that would be blasphemous. You've already predetermined that the City is the bad guy and the developers are the good guys with altruistic motives to lift this backwater village out of the stone age.

Please put some effort into more intelligent posts next time.

But why does the city allow the developer to change it? It kind of makes the approval process a bit of a joke when what gets built looks substantially different than what was "approved". And I don't buy the "value engineering" excuse. These are huge developers. They know exactly what things cost from the beginning.

[squeezied]

Originally Posted by Vin

Ohhhh, as usual, all that drama.

Maybe in your zeal to crucify me, you hadn't even noticed that I did mention the City, Developer, as well as Nimby Residents. Speaking of intelligence....

Speaking of intelligence, no you don't mention developer at all. Do you even read your own posts? If you did, you'd also know posts exude drama. Good to know that you think "residents with torches and pitchforks" had some influence in the switching of facade materials.

Glad to know I'm now off your 'ignore list'...

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by mcminsen

New sidewalk has been poured on Richards Street.

Feb.23 '16, my pic

The bottom edge of those window panes look a bit haphazard - could be the angle of the pic (?)

Originally Posted by osirisboy

But why does the city allow the developer to change it? It kind of makes the approval process a bit of a joke when what gets built looks substantially different than what was "approved". And I don't buy the "value engineering" excuse. These are huge developers. They know exactly what things cost from the beginning.

Agreed - remember the stink (lawsuit!) the City raised over dark / light / clear glass at One Wall Centre?

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The bottom edge of those window panes look a bit haphazard - could be the angle of the pic (?)

Think it looks like that sheet going into the concrete is just cut unevenly but the glass pane is straight.

[mcminsen]

Here are a couple more shots from today.



Feb.24 '16, my pics

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Agreed - remember the stink (lawsuit!) the City raised over dark / light / clear glass at One Wall Centre?

And most absurdly, the dark glass the City went on its crusade against was probably the sleekest, most beautiful curtain wall glazing any condo tower in Vancouver has ever tried to use.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

And most absurdly, the dark glass the City went on its crusade against was probably the sleekest, most beautiful curtain wall glazing any condo tower in Vancouver has ever tried to use.

and because of that, it still doesn't match today in some light.

[csbvan]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

And most absurdly, the dark glass the City went on its crusade against was probably the sleekest, most beautiful curtain wall glazing any condo tower in Vancouver has ever tried to use.

Indeed. Let's never let the NPA anywhere near city hall again.

[jlousa]

Yes, lets let the developers have their way...

[Metro-One]

While not as great as it could have been, I still enjoy this tower.

The only part that i really don't like is the goofy curved southwest corner at the top.

This was done to avoid the *sigh* viewcones. Even so, a straight cut edge would have looked better IMO.

[officedweller]

Thanks - didn't realize there was plywood there in the original pic.

[Jebby]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Yes, lets let the developers have their way...

I think that's the COMPLETE opposite of what people have been saying. If there is an approval process, then developers should NOT get to have their way once a design is approved.

[tgowner]

http://www.6717000.com/777-richards

These realtor sites all quote the developer saying that it'll be done April 1st.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by squeezied

Speaking of intelligence, no you don't mention developer at all. Do you even read your own posts? If you did, you'd also know posts exude drama. Good to know that you think "residents with torches and pitchforks" had some influence in the switching of facade materials.

Glad to know I'm now off your 'ignore list'...

Oh boohoohoo picky picky...

Originally Posted by Vin

Vancouverism:

A phenomenon whereby architectural design excellence tones down to mediocrity, usually due to City bylaws/quirks(City) and the affinity for seafoam spandrels and cheap mass-produced products(Developer), as well as residents with torches and pitchforks(Nimby folks).

I didn't say the City's affinity for seafoam spandrels and cheap mass produced products, did I? Again someone dropped his intelligence a notch due to his haste to be a nit picker.

[Krissy]

Originally Posted by Vin

Oh boohoohoo picky picky...




I didn't say the City's affinity for seafoam spandrels and cheap mass produced products, did I? Again someone dropped his intelligence a notch due to his haste to be a nit picker.

To be fair, you didn't actually mention developer and it did read as though it was the City's affinity for seafoam spandrels.

In any case it does seem like the City gets much more of the heat than they deserve rather than the Developer...

[squeezied]

Originally Posted by Vin

Oh boohoohoo picky picky...




I didn't say the City's affinity for seafoam spandrels and cheap mass produced products, did I? Again someone dropped his intelligence a notch due to his haste to be a nit picker.

You must have trouble with basic English. You said you mentioned developer, you did not. You confuse mention with imply. Did you imply developer with "the affinity for seafoam spandrels and cheap mass-produced products"? As far as I'm concerned, who knows. Given your incessant need to condemn the City, anyone who's seen enough of your ridiculous and fanatic posts would infer that you were referring to the City. Seriously when you say "...due to City bylaws/quirks and the affinity for seafoam spandrels...", do you honestly think it reads "the developer's affinity"? If anything, you were probably referring to the City's affinity for seafoam spandrels given how you think the City prefers bland and boring over bold. And the affinity for cheap mass-produced products? Well, who's? The consumer's because it is more economical and value-driven? You aren't exactly known here for being critical of the developers unlike how you are with the City and nimbys; I can't see how anyone would infer that you were referring to developers with such an ambiguous statement.

Now can I go back to you 'ignore list'? Life would be better for the both of us.