Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4 - Page 269

Stenar · #**5361** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 2:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade

Ugh. Bring back the original concept. It was so much better.

Why does SLC have to keep churning out god-awful buildings?!?

I loved the original design for the DA offices.

Ironweed · #**5362** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 3:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by Stenar

I loved the original design for the DA offices.

The new DA's office looks like something 1960'ish from the Bringem Young campus. ...

ajiuO · #**5363** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 4:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade

Ugh. Bring back the original concept. It was so much better.

Why does SLC have to keep churning out god-awful buildings?!?

What are you talking about? We are the only city that has an official Borg cube replica. 😂

Comrade · #**5364** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 5:07 AM**

The original design was unique and bold - but not overwhelmingly bold that it might look out of place in a conservative city like SLC.

Meh.

s.p.hansen · #**5365** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 7:33 AM**

I know SLC Roasting Co bit the dust because of the city and its propensity to tear down things around its city government campus. Are there going to be any more causalities because of this reboot?

The city sure loves to spread its buracracy over as much acreage as possible... Do as I say and not as I do and such.

Future Mayor · #**5366** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 4:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by s.p.hansen

I know SLC Roasting Co bit the dust because of the city and its propensity to tear down things around its city government campus. Are there going to be any more causalities because of this reboot?

The city sure loves to spread its buracracy over as much acreage as possible... Do as I say and not as I do and such.

This isn't to expand the Civic Campus. Yes the city bought it, but it is being acquired for development. Salt Lake City was definitely interested in the property and owned all the property surrounding it, but it was the owner of Salt Lake Roasting that approached the City this time around to begin negotiations.

UTPlanner · #**5367** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 4:24 PM**

s.p. hansen, I think you are misinformed or ill informed. The Salt Lake Roasting Company is going to move further east on 400 South. The building and the adjacent former Barnes Bank building are going to "bite the dust" to be replaced with a mixed use structure that will provide much needed downtown workforce housing. This has absolutely nothing to do with "spreading bureaucracy" as you stated. Also, this is a plan that has been discussed greatly in the prior Administration as well as the current Administration. The initial plans that I saw look great and will place retail on 400 South and facing the PSB. Hopefully, this will encourage more activity in that area. Of course these were only preliminary drawings.

I think I will hold my statements related to the DA's Office until I see improved, more detailed renderings. The rendering provided is horrible and there's no site context whatsoever.

Viperlord · #**5368** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 5:26 PM**

We now know where the AC hotel by PEG Development is going....

235 W 200 S Salt Lake City UT
Parcel Number: 15-01-254-017-0000

Project Description:
AC Hotel and Apartments
Building and site design review for two multi-family buildings in the D-4 zoning district.

https://aca.slcgov.com/Citizen/Cap/CapDe...38&agencyCode=SLCREF&IsToShowInspection=

http://pegdevelopment.com/future-projects/

Future Mayor · #**5369** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 6:05 PM**

The old Creative/Ferrari Color site. I like that location and I like that it's hotel and apartments, it puts more full time residents in the neighborhood. It will also be a nice piece in helping to connect that corridor. That is the only block along 200 S that doesn't have anything of any value to go to or even look at.

According to the information on Accela, the site is just the Creative Color site, as there is only one parcel listed and it's listed at 1.04 acres.

That northern half of that block is zoned D-4, so it appears that they are going up to the maximum, possibly the conditional use maximum height. It would be nice that when a second large hotel near the Salt Palace is needed if they would rezone the corner parcel to D-1. I think that would make a nice addition to that block.

Overall I think this will be a great project in that location.

JMK · #**5370** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 6:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by ajiuO

What are you talking about? We are the only city that has an official Borg cube replica. 😂

Can't forget about LA's federal courthouse

San Diego-Honolulu · #**5371** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 8:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by JMK

Can't forget about LA's federal courthouse

I actually like LA's courthouse more than Salt Lakes, but I think it's because the slope on the hill for LA's gives it an interesting look and takes away from the full box feel.

If you ever drive around the Wasatch Front and the Inland Empire, Orange County, or around the LA area, there is a very similar feel. The feel is also similar in style of buildings as well, and the courthouse is another example. I remember a class I took in college, the professor said that the Salt Lake area is simply an extension of the LA area and very similar to the LA market.

Orlando · #**5372** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 8:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by San Diego-Honolulu

I actually like LA's courthouse more than Salt Lakes, but I think it's because the slope on the hill for LA's gives it an interesting look and takes away from the full box feel.

If you ever drive around the Wasatch Front and the Inland Empire, Orange County, or around the LA area, there is a very similar feel. The feel is also similar in style of buildings as well, and the courthouse is another example. I remember a class I took in college, the professor said that the Salt Lake area is simply an extension of the LA area and very similar to the LA market.

I like the LA one better, too. Very classy.

GBurrow · #**5373** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 9:10 PM**

I was running some errands and noticed that a fence has been put up around the Salt Lake Hardware Building Parking lot. The parking structure for the Alta Gateway complex is complete and the crane is on site to start framing.

airhero · #**5374** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 10:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Orlando

I like the LA one better, too. Very classy.

I dunno, comparing a glorified rendering of one building to the finished product of another isn't the best way to determine a preference. I think LA's building is turning out to look like it belongs in a suburban office park:

Not finished yet though, so it could start looking better.

airhero · #**5375** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 10:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Viperlord

We now know where the AC hotel by PEG Development is going....

235 W 200 S Salt Lake City UT
Parcel Number: 15-01-254-017-0000

Project Description:
AC Hotel and Apartments
Building and site design review for two multi-family buildings in the D-4 zoning district.

https://aca.slcgov.com/Citizen/Cap/CapDe...38&agencyCode=SLCREF&IsToShowInspection=

http://pegdevelopment.com/future-projects/

I agree that this is a great location. I thought it would be on the corner but I'm glad to see this portion of the block is getting developed first.

I'm curious where the rumored development on one of the Greek Orthodox Church's parking lots is going, and whether it will front 200 South at all.

slc801 · #**5376** Posted **Feb 23, 2016, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by UTPlanner

s.p. hansen, I think you are misinformed or ill informed. The Salt Lake Roasting Company is going to move further east on 400 South. The building and the adjacent former Barnes Bank building are going to "bite the dust" to be replaced with a mixed use structure that will provide much needed downtown workforce housing. This has absolutely nothing to do with "spreading bureaucracy" as you stated. Also, this is a plan that has been discussed greatly in the prior Administration as well as the current Administration. The initial plans that I saw look great and will place retail on 400 South and facing the PSB. Hopefully, this will encourage more activity in that area. Of course these were only preliminary drawings.

I think I will hold my statements related to the DA's Office until I see improved, more detailed renderings. The rendering provided is horrible and there's no site context whatsoever.

I think that this is disappointing. Once again, I hate the destruction of old properties for a new building. I think that true character is achieved with the interaction of the old and new, not demolition of the old for the sake of the new. I like the Salt Lake Roasting Company Building and it is a shame for it to get demolished. Yes, those properties should be developed, but that development should compliment the historic buildings, not demolish them. Who can I contact about this?

i-215 · #**5377** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 12:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by San Diego-Honolulu

If you ever drive around the Wasatch Front and the Inland Empire, Orange County, or around the LA area, there is a very similar feel.

Rancho Cucamonga is Sandy/South Jordan.
Irvine is Draper/Lehi.

Yep. I see it.

s.p.hansen · #**5378** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 2:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by UTPlanner

s.p. hansen, I think you are misinformed or ill informed. The Salt Lake Roasting Company is going to move further east on 400 South. The building and the adjacent former Barnes Bank building are going to "bite the dust" to be replaced with a mixed use structure that will provide much needed downtown workforce housing. This has absolutely nothing to do with "spreading bureaucracy" as you stated.

Listen, you guys and the county fucked up already with the DA's office before so don't even pretend I've got a stick up my 🞵🞵🞵 about this. Not to mention what at least 1/3 of this forum and most urban planning profs at the UofU see as a massive overuse of green space on the library property. And we're all getting sick of the "workforce" housing that's overpriced and over stuccoed.

Regarding my issues losing SLC Roasting. The shop was awesome and the history and use was great. The cost of doing business there will most likely be lower than any new mixed use project. If you celebrate some 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 salon replacing a SLC original coffee shop in that spot, then you're doing it wrong. SLC buys distressed and historical property with the RDA, this doesn't feel like that. You guys at your civic campus are horrible neighbors.

bflatflat9 · #**5379** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 2:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by i-215

Rancho Cucamonga is Sandy/South Jordan.
Irvine is Draper/Lehi.

Yep. I see it.

Rialto is Ogden.

s.p.hansen · #**5380** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 2:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

This isn't to expand the Civic Campus. Yes the city bought it, but it is being acquired for development. Salt Lake City was definitely interested in the property and owned all the property surrounding it, but it was the owner of Salt Lake Roasting that approached the City this time around to begin negotiations.

The city should treat their urban campus less like an LDS temple and more like a member of a neighborhood.